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Import Aperture so images are stored inside catalog?

p a t r i c k
Hi

I am a total newbie, in fact I have Capture One Pro on trial at the moment, however it is extremely impressive!

Anyway, like many I am moving from using Apple's Aperture to Capture One. I have "imported" all the images from my old Aperture library, but in fact Capture One only has imported references to the images, the images are still sitting in the Aperture library.

I want to copy all the images from Aperture library to the Catalog so that I can dispense with the Aperture Library in the future.

I can't see any way to get Catalog One to do that.

I notice that in the general import dialogue box I can choose to have "Inside Catalog" as the destination, but that doesn't seem to be available when I go the Import Catalog -> Aperture Library route.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
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  • Eric Nepean
    I think that if you import an Aperture Library, the managed images in the Aperture Library end up inside the CO catalog, and referenced images from the Aperture Library end up as referenced images (outside the catalog).

    Aperture has specific commands for moving images from inside the libary to disk and vice versa; Capture One has a drag and drop feature that allows one to move images from inside the catalog to outside, and back.

    The more I work with various photo tools, the more convinced I become that managed files are a risk and that it is better to store images outside the catalog as referenced images.

    For a large number of images (especailly with big files), the size of a catalog with images inside makes it difficult to move or backup the catalog. Furthermore a catalog corruption (more common in CO than Aperture) makes it very difficult to recover images.

    I'd rather have my images outside the catalog, where I back them up with Time Machine and a couple of other apps. Then my catalog is small and easily backed up. When I remove an image from the catalog (on purpose or by accident) it still exists on disk - that option is not available with managed images. If I need to reference an image with another tool, like Aperture or DXO, that also simple.
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  • p a t r i c k
    Thank you for your response to my question Eric.

    I have been very happy with keeping all my images in Aperture, however now that I plan on using Capture One I guess I'll have to move my images into a folder or system of folders.

    Importing images from Aperture to Capture One means that the originals stay in Aperture which is obviously not what anyone wants because it is kind of obvious that the plan is to abandon Aperture.

    If I move the images out of Aperture first, then import from Aperture can I then delete the Aperture library and the links to the images for Capture One will remain intact?
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  • fotojenic777
    When I moved from Aperture to CO I first converted all my Aperture managed images to referenced images and tested that everything still worked in Aperture then and only then oh and several backups of course did I import into CO using the Aperture library import. However I didn’t like the way CO handled the import; it didn’t seem to show the folders correctly. So in the end I created xmp sidecar files in Aperture and did a normal import in CO accepting that I would lose some edits from Aperture e.g. crops. But as I wanted to see what CO could do with my old images by re-editing them I was happy with that.
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  • Eric Nepean
    Hi Patrick, just noticed your question
    [quote="p a t r i c k" wrote:
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    I have been very happy with keeping all my images in Aperture, however now that I plan on using Capture One I guess I'll have to move my images into a folder or system of folders.
    You don’t have to, but highly recommended. The situation you must avoid is where Capture One changes images inside Aperture’s Library.

    Importing images from Aperture to Capture One means that the originals stay in Aperture which is obviously not what anyone wants because it is kind of obvious that the plan is to abandon Aperture.

    If I move the images out of Aperture first, then import from Aperture can I then delete the Aperture library and the links to the images for Capture One will remain intact?

    Yes, you can delete the Aperture Library, without affecting anything else. Every application has it’s own links. Aperture and COP (and many other applications) can happily coexist in a referenced file arrangement (although adjustments and Metadata changes are not shared). One thing you have to watch is if you should happen to delete an image or empty the trash from the Aperture Library, select the option that does not delete files from disk. I wouldn’t rush to delete Aperture libraries, you might have to refer back to Aperture a few times before you get totally comfortable with COP. Until you do, beware of changing the image file name using COP, if you do Aperture won’t be able to find it.

    That’s one reason I chose referenced files. When I want to view, analyze or edit the image (being careful not change the original) with Aperture, Pixelmator, DXO, Affinity, Rawdigger or the NIK toolbox, the source file is where I can find it straight away and I can put the result file right next to it.
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  • p a t r i c k
    Thank you Eric and fotojenic. I am going to pull the trigger on Capture One. It is of great benefit to an application like this to have a good forum like this with experienced users who provide valuable information.
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