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Mac platform for first Phase One version of iView/EM

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I'm probably in the minority, but I would like to request that the next version of iView/EM continue to be compatible with the pre-Intel Mac platform (e.g. PowerPC, running the Tiger OS 10.4.11). When I tried to download my complimentary version of Capture One 5, I noticed that it isn't compatible with my Mac. I had to download v. 4.1.1 from the archive. Judging from the long list of archived versions, it seems Phase One releases versions with a very narrow band of OS compatibility, and abandoned Mac Tiger OS long ago.

Again, I realize I'm probably in the minority, but I wish Phase One would consider retaining OS 10.4.11 compatibility at least for the first post-Microsoft version. I know I'll have to join the Intel Mac world eventually, but was hoping to delay it for another year. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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  • Mark Batchelour
    I'd like to add my voice to this call. In terms of updates i'd rather spend my cash on a newer back, than on upgrading to a Mac Pro.

    Support for PPC macs is also ideal for those of use who use backs that rely on Firewire, as the newer intel based machines (i'm told) have lower firewire power available. My H20 works fine on my Ibook g4 used with C1 4.8.3.

    I'd be happy to accept limited support, and /or reduced functionality, if I had to, in order to get back on the upgrade path. (of course, i'd prefer not to have to...)
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  • Drew Altdo
    On one hand I can't help but agree that it would be nice to support legacy hardware, but everyone knows that technology by nature progresses and forces conformity. If you're still using legacy hardware like the old PPC chips you'll be well served in saving your pennies for an upgrade, it's not a preference... it's just the reality. If you're happy with your old system you'll be just fine standing still, but if you ever want to gain new features in Camera technology, software or peripherals your only option will be to upgrade. These older machines haven't been supported by Apple in nearly 3 years and if the manufacturer doesn't support the product there isn't much opportunity for anyone else.
    There will be no further support for the these discontinued platforms.
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  • Drew Altdo
    [quote="MarkBatchelour" wrote:
    Support for PPC macs is also ideal for those of use who use backs that rely on Firewire, as the newer intel based machines (i'm told) have lower firewire power available. My H20 works fine on my Ibook g4 used with C1 4.8.3.


    The firewire power has changed over the years. However this is one very small drawback when compared to the overall gain in the new processors versatility. The firewire power on the new machine can be easily supplemented with a $20.00 component from Best Buy (safer too!).
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  • Mark Batchelour
    Firewire power: you make a fair point. (actually I do have a repeater, but i've never needed it with the Ibook)

    Upgrading Legacy systems; Well here I agree with you to an extent. Obviously, I will upgrade my desktop at some point, but for now, it covers 99% of what I want it to do. With my H20 and D700, I can get images, edit, collect and store them just fine. So why move forward? The answer is of course, to make available some new feature (in Phase One software in the case of this discussion) that I want to have (or to make an existing feature faster).

    I'm not in the market for a new P65 as i'm not professional, so my next upgrade is likely to be a used Pxx at a cost of a few thousand (pounds in my case). This would be a big commitment for an amateur, and to add onto that the costs of a new(er) mac pro, adds a significant percentage of the budget. If I could today, i'd upgrade to C1 5.0 right now (from 4.8.3).

    All i'm asking is to keep the option of PPC compatibility under review. I know it won't happen if the dev/test/support costs are high, that's only sensible, but it's worth remembering the user "pyramid", for each pro there are 10 advanced amateurs, and 100 amateurs, and 1000 casual snappers, being open to these brings many more people into the "family", which is especially important as Software becomes a major offering.

    Ok, I tried.... 😊 Thanks for listening.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I appreciate the direct answer, Drew. At least I know what to expect.

    But, to echo Mark's point about the user "pyramid," I'd encourage Phase One to remember that most of its potential customers can't afford to upgrade their systems as frequently as the pros.
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  • Dave Heap
    While I agree that Tiger support is too much to ask as most developers only support two (current and previous) OS versions, I would hope that we can continue to have our PPC systems supported until at least Leopard (the last OS to support PPC) becomes legacy .
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  • Drew Altdo
    Again, I'm sorry to disappoint but this really isn't our decision.
    Apple does NOT support PPC any longer, therefore neither can we. It would not be fair to devote our resources to supporting discontinued hardware when newer hardware allows for newer features and better performance.
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