How to add existing folders/subfolders into a catalog
Hi to all experts out there 😊
I´m not very experienced in working with catalogs.
Until now I worked only with sessions. But now I get more and more problems with organizing all the files and so I´m taking a look on catalogs.
It seems that the referenced version of catalogs is my way.
The most points of working with this catalog-feature are clear.
But now I´m standing for an issue and there is now way out... 😁
Here it is:
After I made all adjustments I like to get a "*.Tiff" for further editing in Photoshop. These Tiff-files come all into one special folder named something like:"furtherPS" here I like to sort the files in other folders like: year, genre etc..
Often I create these subfolders during the "output process dialog" under the point "Output location"
The folders I created here in the process dialog are not automatically added in the catalogs folder structure.
Ok, that would not be such a great problem, because it is possible to add these folders in the main data menu of the catalog.
But now it comes:
If I´m not failing it is not possible to add the whole new folderstructure all at once.
But I have to add each single folder one after the other. And after adding every single folder I can at last click on synchronisation to get finally the files into the catalog.
Awkward is the word that comes in my mind 😉
Is there no other way to import the folder structures more comfortable?
Greetings Sascha
I´m not very experienced in working with catalogs.
Until now I worked only with sessions. But now I get more and more problems with organizing all the files and so I´m taking a look on catalogs.
It seems that the referenced version of catalogs is my way.
The most points of working with this catalog-feature are clear.
But now I´m standing for an issue and there is now way out... 😁
Here it is:
After I made all adjustments I like to get a "*.Tiff" for further editing in Photoshop. These Tiff-files come all into one special folder named something like:"furtherPS" here I like to sort the files in other folders like: year, genre etc..
Often I create these subfolders during the "output process dialog" under the point "Output location"
The folders I created here in the process dialog are not automatically added in the catalogs folder structure.
Ok, that would not be such a great problem, because it is possible to add these folders in the main data menu of the catalog.
But now it comes:
If I´m not failing it is not possible to add the whole new folderstructure all at once.
But I have to add each single folder one after the other. And after adding every single folder I can at last click on synchronisation to get finally the files into the catalog.
Awkward is the word that comes in my mind 😉
Is there no other way to import the folder structures more comfortable?
Greetings Sascha
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The Catalogue Import dialogue window asks you to identify a folder to import and then offers a tick box to allow you to include subfolders.
You may have explained why this does not work for you and I may have missed it but it would seem to have some place in the process you require so I thought it would be a good idea to ask if you have tried it already. If you have and it did not work for you can you explain why it failed?
Grant0 -
Hi Grant,
My main problem at the moment is, that I´m searching a way to include my personally workflow into CO1... Maybe that´s the problem,... this personally aspect 😂
I will try a detailed explanation
Here is my very own workflow:
-Importing the NEF.files into a folder named: "Transfer"
-Now I take a first look. Delete all unsharp files ect.
-After that I sort by genre and move the photos into suitable locations in my folder structure on my harddisk.(I´ve created a folder structure of genres like landscape, portrait ect. in each of these mainfolders are other subfolders included, something like year, place and so on.)
I often have to create new folders for the new photos because the show a new place or person that´s not included yet in my database folderstructure.
At this point my datas are only sorted and moved to right place.
-No I look a little bit more accurate to the photos and choose wich file should be edited via CO1. For that I give a 5Stars rating and a red lable. so it´s easier to find the photos I want to proceed.
-Now the cool editing with CO1 begins. And I love it!!!
-After all settings have made, I go to the processing area to get an "Tiff.File" for further editing in Photoshop.
-All processed files are layed down in a folder named "ForPhotoshop".
-Here I created another folderstructure with years, genre, name ect. These folders are often created in the process of CO1 itself under the point "output location".
-Now I can close CO1
-Open Photoshop and go to the "ForPhotoshop"place. Here I can find simply the photos I want to complete. Often I create now once more folders like "edited", "ready to print" ect.
Sorry that´s a long story until now, and some things I explained double, but now you can see, the whole flow.
I have no problems with the general import of folders and their structure. But if I make the Output as tiff-file and therefore create new folders with subfolders and so on, CO1 seems very uncomfortable to include these new folders.
For example:
let´s say I run the output process for getting a tiff.file from some landscape photos from France/Paris, where I´ve never been before.
I go to the process area of CO1 choose Tiff, and in the "Output Location"-dialouge I click on "choose" and in the upcomming Window I navigate to: C:\Photos\ForPhotoshop\landscape\europe
and there I create a new folder: \france\paris\downtown
CO1 don´t know this 3 new folders!!!
If I run the Import dialouge an identify the france folder, CO1 only imported the folders with Photos in it.
After the import, I can´t see the france folder, and not the paris folder if there are now pictures in it but the downtown folder will be displayed becaue there are photos from paris downtown.
This will create confusion. I´m sure you can understand what I mean.
I can, of course, manually add the mising folder click by click one after another. but that is also not very comfortable.
puhhhh long talk...
On the other hand there is the "add-folder"dialouge but why is it impossible to enable adding the subfolders? And adding each single folder is not the whole job, you know. After that you have to sync them....
Very hard job to keep the datas up to date....
If there is anyone with the big one reason for me I think I have to change the basics of my flow. 😭 😭 😭
Is my workflow so unique???
I cannot believe that.
Greatings Sascha0 -
Sascha,
I tend to keep everything in sessions.
I think the point about using a database to catalogue stuff - any stuff - is that the DB is for storing stuff efficiently in computer terms and to allow people to find things by searching without having to manage the complexities of cross-recording where everything is is in a filing system or taking copies. The computer does the work so you don't have to.
In effect by enforcing your own folder structure you are duplicating the computer's potential to help you - or indeed eliminating it.
This becomes more difficult when you work with systems that work differently.
Bear in mind that computer disks store bits of files all over the place. Programmers just present them as "folders" because that is what we are used to.
Anything that you might consider to be subject matter that can appear on more than one category and be relevant for different purposes, is. one could argue, better just thrown into a general storage system with some fast retrieval tags attached and you then let the storage system management deal with finding it for you. Use some quite simply tagging for that to keep things simple.
If, for some reason, you are working with 2 or more systems using the same files and those systems all work differently I can see you would be likely to have problems making them work well together - but there is nothing new in that.
Whenever my wife "tidies things up a bit" around the house it can be months, sometimes years, before I can find stuff again. It's easier to search a computer.
I'm not sure I should suggest this but if you have specific folders used by Sessions (outside the session default folder structure probably easier to understand) or REFERENCED files managed by Catalogue, there is no reason you cannot have those field "known" by different session and catalogues.
The possible danger is one of confusion about where management control should come from. Which is the master session or catalogue?
As for creating new files in existing folders - in a session if you have a folder set as a Favourite contents will be found then next time you open it by some process. That may or may not be what you want for some subfolders or types of subfolders.
Life can get too complicated - always managing databases rather than taking photos!
But you must do whatever you feel comfortable doing and go wherever that leads you.
Grant0 -
Hi Grant,
thank you very much.
No I´m clear with that workflow. My big mistake was, that I had not quite followed the whole recommended flow in CO1-sessions.
No I´m doing it like all the guys an all youtube tutorials where they are showing their flow with sessions.
Ok
Everthing is ok now.
Thank you once more
Sascha0
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