At Every Turn, A Roadblock, is C1 still Relevant?
I must first say that I have been using C1 for years and love it's ability to render color and love the workflow. However, of recent, I can't seem to find that old warm and cozy feeling I once had for this software.
First, my office is now shooting Canon 1Dx bodies. It seems that it took forever to support this camera, lens correction doesn't work as we get an unsupported file error.
Second, noise in higher ISO images tends to take on a "checkerboard" type pattern. Mostly not visible in the final works but at 100% looks so strange.
Has C1 fallen hopelessly behind its competitors ? Is anyone else considering changing raw processors? How can we invest more time and money into a product that seems to always be playing catchup?
Thanks
First, my office is now shooting Canon 1Dx bodies. It seems that it took forever to support this camera, lens correction doesn't work as we get an unsupported file error.
Second, noise in higher ISO images tends to take on a "checkerboard" type pattern. Mostly not visible in the final works but at 100% looks so strange.
Has C1 fallen hopelessly behind its competitors ? Is anyone else considering changing raw processors? How can we invest more time and money into a product that seems to always be playing catchup?
Thanks
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The pro's are here for the years of tethering support and the unparalleled color rendition.
The pixel peepers and amateurs - not sure and don't care.
If you've used C1P for any amount of time - you know not to expect new camera support as fast as LR - but LR/Adobe color sucks.
What are you looking for? Make a support case and make requests. But most C1P users dont want/need every imaginable feature - just really nice looking files.0 -
Thanks, I am looking for the lens correction to work with the 1Dx files...and, better noise reduction. Other than that, I love C1 for color, tonal rendering and common sense workflow.
Oh yeah, live view tethering for Canon/Nikon would be sweet as well... 😊 But not a deal breaker.
And since you asked, a usable Media Pro release.
I don'y ask for much, just throw me a bone every now and then.
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Until recently, CO Pro had been my exclusive conversion software, since v1 on the Mac. I too feel that it has been lagging in a number of important respects for my needs (no high quality auto-masking for local adjustments, limited implementation of Black and White, lack of Gradient, less good noise reduction, less good input sharpening algorithms, etc) and have lately consistently opted for alternative software that to my mind sacrifices little or nothing in rendered image quality and affords the possibility of effecting the conversion to a Smart Object in PS that permits conversion tweaking. I sincerely hope that a future release of CO Pro will address what I view as serious deficiencies. 0 -
As the name CAPTURE one, not CONVERSION one says - is still the number 1 capture software from our site and all pro photographers and digital techs i know working in fashion/advertising.
I am happy if it stays a good capture tool with not to much tick tack maybe some might want to have, but that make the software more complex than needed.
Fast and easy but good the requests here on our site. C1 is doing a good job with that
For developing we use different possibilities like camera raw (photoshop) also.
Why do you want to finalize the image before the post production that happens anyhow in photoshop?0 -
At the time v1 was released for the Mac, CO Pro, besides offering incredible image quality, an outstanding workflow, but at an incredibly high price for the times, was, if my memory is correct, just about the only conversion software available for that platform. This was its fundamental purpose, raw conversion, and I believe that this statement does not reflect a generalization on the basis of my own needs of that period. Indeed, these forums were initially hosted by Michael Tapes, who had designed conversion software for the Windows platform. Until quite recently, CO Pro remained unsurpassed in terms of workflow and IQ. That situation to my mind has since changed in several respects, but I have great hopes for the future. 0 -
I guess you can name Capture One 3 the first serious version for professionals working not only with the first digital backs but the major digital slr's.
It has been called portrait one as far as i know - but that was far before the real demand and strenght of the software where found.
You really can not compare demands you had a decade before to the digital photography now.
Since version 3 - the first real and NOW Capture one it was a Capture software - and a raw converter but never an alternative to photoshop.0 -
If I'm not mistaken LR doesn't fully support 1dx either. I know I'm using Capture One for its superior image quality and that's enough for me. Tethered shooting is also much faster in Capture One than other programs I tried. I don't think it's realistic to expect Capture One to support cameras as fast as Adobe. All software have their pluses and minuses. Capture One's pluses outweigh its minuses in my opinion. 0 -
[quote="Ralph" wrote:
I too feel that it has been lagging in a number of important respects for my needs (no high quality auto-masking for local adjustments, limited implementation of Black and White, lack of Gradient, less good noise reduction, less good input sharpening algorithms, etc)
These are features - in my opinion - are not at all necessary the #1 capture application. Of course for people needing features to feel they have gotten value - phase one has to add this stuff. but it can detract from C1P core use.
Photoshop does all of these things so much better than C1P ever will - and that's fine. In pro workflows - all images will go through PS.
And about the 1Dx - I would maybe question Canon for delaying the release before blaming Phase One.0 -
Perhaps "pros" will develop some initial familiarity with the basics of a raw workflow and its software underpinnings and hence have less need to introduce non-sequiturs. 0 -
[quote="Ralph" wrote:
Perhaps "pros" will develop some initial familiarity with the basics of a raw workflow and its software underpinnings and hence have less need to introduce non-sequiturs.
I know marketing and online"experts" would have you believe that everything must be done in the raw image to get the best result but in the real world - that doesn't happen all that often.
No need to get upset - for pro users - fashion, advertising, - we dont need do have everything done in the raw converter - since it will go to PS and it has so many more tools to define an image. (I can't even get C1P curve dialogue to pull end points up or down properly!) I just expect solid tethering and the best default color profiles.0
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