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XP 64-bit Compatibility?

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  • Christopher
    Version 4 is most definitely compatible with x64 editions of Windows (except for tethered capture). I believe that the 3.x versions are too, but haven't tried.

    You don't need to install 1.x and upgrade. You can directly install the most recent version.
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  • NN1222222
    Thanks, Christopher.

    Yes, it installed perfectly on my PC (With XP Pro 64-bit OS) and works perfectly. (I do not intend to use my camera with tethered operation so that is not relevant to me.)

    Peter
    http://www.peterkburian.com
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  • Franz Scherz
    On my Vista 64 also tethered works.

    Anyhow, it does not use 64 which CS4 an LR offers already.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="Franz" wrote:
    On my Vista 64 also tethered works.

    That is interesting Frank, and the first testimony of that kind. I suppose it is tethering with your D700? But now you made me curious.
    Questions popping up are: Did you install any Nikon software or drivers on your Vista machine? Does the camera show up in Device Management window after connecting? Can you see the memory card in the camera from Windows Explorer.
    Any response welcome if you have the time to share this with us.
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  • William Nieman
    It's great to be back on the forum again.

    You guys have had some very interesting posts and I enjoy reading them.
    The last post I had was July 2008 and Paul E. Steunebrink replied, and I thank you.

    We tried 4.6.1 last month and it would hardly run on my Athlon XP3200 1.9GHx with 2GB Ram. Now don't dye of laughter, I'm still running 3.7.7 of C1Pro. I didn't bother trying it on my Athlon 64 at 2.61GHx. All are built on Asus motherboards, they seemed to be the best at the time. All 4 computers run Win XP-Pro 32bit. OS on C:drive along with programs. Working digital files on RAID 1, but could be changed to RAID 0. I store most files o Ready NAS NV+ 1.5TB however we just installed a network server with 6-750GB drives configured to RAID 5.

    I photograph 4-5 subjects a day 200-300 exposures each with a Canon 1DMkIII, 10.2Mpxl camera.

    Anyway I plan on slipping 3 new Motherboards and CPU's in this year. I turns out the only accurate answers I have ever received and trust are on this forum and Paul has saved me a salesman that tried to sell me a dual quad core unit.

    Speed and of course stability are my top priorities. I was reading some mother board reviews on newegg.com and it seems there are issues with all of them. But I'll bet many of these are gamers.

    I was thinking CPU wise, of a 3.2GHz Core 2 Extreme, or a 3.0 Quad Core on maybe a Gigabyte 8AENXP-D, or MSI 925XE Neo Platinum, or EVGA eForce 790i Ultra motherboard.

    You guys seem to have an knowledgeable edge. Please tell me what you have noticed recently in the hardware world and over me some recommendations. If you don't want to post manufacturers names please e-mail me at niemphot@wctc.net.

    I thank you in advance, and again thank Paul Steunebrink for his past expertise.
    Also, a big thanks to Phase One for this forum and great web site.

    Warmest Regards,
    Bill Nieman
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="William" wrote:
    It's great to be back on the forum again.
    ...
    I was thinking CPU wise, of a 3.2GHz Core 2 Extreme, or a 3.0 Quad Core on maybe a Gigabyte 8AENXP-D, or MSI 925XE Neo Platinum, or EVGA eForce 790i Ultra motherboard.

    Hi Bill,
    Welcome back. Just a brief notice on your hardware selection. First, both the Gigabyte and MSI boards you suggested are not capable of running Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad/Extreme processors. The EVGA board does but does sounds more like a audio and game freaking board to me (nothing wrong with that but different audience). Maybe you do not have sufficient inside in the selection process of building a system yourself. Therefore...

    A brief introduction in hardware configuration selection process. It is not too difficult but a lot of parameters are involved. It is a linear process.
    1. Select processor (brand, # of cores, front side bus speed, socket)
    2. Select kind of chipset to support the processor
    3. Determine memory configuration
    4. Determine specific configuration issues regarding peripherals (storage, network, graphic adapters, USB/firewire ports, audio)
    5. Select the motherboard with the selected chipset from a predefined selection of manufacturers with proper processor and memory support
    6. Finalize your motherboard selection based on peripheral configuration options as determined in 4.
    7. Select peripherals (disks, graphic card)
    8. Determine power usage (Asus PowerCalculator)
    9. Select computer case and power unit

    - At point 1 you selected an Intel Core 2 Quad 3.0 GHz (this must be the Q9650, LGA775 socket, 1333 MHz FSB). Incredible value for money processor currently since the recent new stepping (updated version) Intel dropped the Extreme label and the price. It is in this range only outperformed by Intel's QX9770, 3.2 GHz, LGA775, 1600 MHz FSB) which is approx. 4 times the price.
    - For a chipset (point 2) you can select Intel's X48 (which supports both procs) or the P45 (does not support the QX9770). Intel chipsets have a good reputation for stability in general, which does not mean other brands are not but I prefer to stay on the safe side.
    - Regarding point 3 memory I suggest you opt for DDR3, 1333 MHz speed with these processors. Note that not all boards with an X48 chipset support DDR3, some only handle DDR2. Also note that it is hard to get 1600 MHz DDR3 at this moment, making the QX9770 less interesting for its value (you can use 1333 MHz memory with this processor, slowing it down a bit). Also keep the amount of memory in consideration. You might want to go to 4 GB now with a 32-bits OS, but more later. Check memory limit per motherboard later in the process.
    - For point 4 the most interesting part is graphic card support: 1 or 2 PCI-e x16 adapters. I think most photographers need only one anyway which is sufficient for even de most demanding multi monitor setup.
    - When selecting a motherboard (5), both Intel and Gigabyte have a solid reputation for features and stability. Gigabyte has often more features, which may not be necessary however. I can't comment on other brands due to lack of experience because their focus on other markets like gamers. Oh, did I say check max. amount of memory (max. 8 GB sounds fine to me)?
    - Point 7 and 8 are pretty straightforward, I think.
    - Point 9 issues are: motherboard size (ATX large, small, mini) and the power unit with proper connectors for M/B and graphics adapter (which has often its own power connector nowadays) a.k.a. ATX12V 2.2 and dual 12V output rails and low noise plus high output (80 PLUS certified) and optionally an additional fan. The Antec EarthWatts series are a good example.

    This should be enough to keep you busy during the weekend. 😉
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  • William Nieman
    Hi Paul,

    Positively great to hear from you again! I didn't expect a reply so soon.
    I'll start looking into the parts list this weekend... probably run through the parts list with you to see if you approve. I sure do appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share.

    Regards,
    Bill Nieman
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  • Paul1921
    Hi Paul, I really like your post here, and I think will use some of this info to build my next system. I would like to clarify one point however regarding memory, and a 32 bit OS. It is pointless to put 4GB of memory in a 32 bit system since the total amount the system can address is 4GB which also includes the graphics card, and system BIOS and other devices. Conservatively speaking, the most memory you can install is about 3GB (2 one gig stalks, and 2 512 gig stalks) to still run in dual channel mode.

    You can do a quick web search to confirm this. I had the same issue a while ago when I wanted to go to 4GB, and found a page on Microsoft's MSDN site. I just stuck with the 2GB I had.

    I did a quick search, and found this posting here. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25681 ... ory-3069mb

    Just don't want to see people spend money for no reason. 😊

    Paul
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Paul, I am aware of the issue and agree with you that for most people buying 3 GB RAM will give them the same amount of available RAM as installing 4 GB does due to memory mapping of hardware addresses. The final amount of available RAM depends however on your video card memory. I am getting 3.5 GB RAM on a 4 GB RAM system due to a modest and humble 128 MB video memory. But you won't find such a card easy nowadays!

    Another way to look at is that you can install 4 GB (2x2 GB) now while still working with a 32-bit OS and with a 64-bit OS in the future add another 2x2 GB, to max out both your performance and preserving your investments (with a 3 GB configuration you would discard the 2x 0.5 GB). I believe that when you build a system today it will probably end up having a 64-bit OS installed during its life cycle. This will free the way to use larger amounts of memory above 4 GB as you know.

    And unless there are pressing reasons not to do it, I would recommend a 64-bits OS anyway today, even with a majority of 32-bits applications on your disk it allows you to address more RAM to several simultaneously running 32-bits applications, enhancing performance. For applications which need a 32-bits OS, like tethering with Capture One 4 (unless you have a Nikon D700 it seems 😉 ), I would run them in a 32-bits virtual machine on my 64-bits desktop (which I am effectively doing already on both my Windows and Macintosh systems).
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  • Franz Scherz
    I installed also ViewNX and CaprureNX on my Vista 64. I see the cam in Vista as well. I also tested Camera Control Pro 2.x and it works as well on Vista 64 with my D700. But I don't know if I did anything special but usually all my software works well on Vista 64.
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  • William Nieman
    I was just in the process of selecting a new motherboard to run a Q9650 when I purchase MaximumPC's Build the perfect PC, and first learned about the new Core i7.

    I also found some reviews comparing the Intel DX58SO and the Asus P6TDeluxe or the which won the competition. Asus also has the P6T WS server board which would give me capability of RAID 0 for my OS and programs and SAS Controller RAID 0,1,or 10 for files.

    I figure I can rebuild one of my 4 computers with a P6T Deluxe, i7 - 3.2GHz, 6GB Corsair Dominator (3x2Gb) DDR3 1600, C: Drive= 2- WDCaviarBlack 500GB RAID 0 all this for about $1500 or the Server board for a little bit more.

    Any ideas out there?

    How about you Paul, what do you think?

    Bill
    😄
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I am currently in a similar selection process as Bill here (hi Bill 😉 ), and find the Core i7 platform increasingly attempting over the current mainstream Core 2 Quad series. My estimation is that the almost top of the line Core 2 Quad Q9650 processor and and the entry level Core i7 920 processor are equal in price and performance. This despite the i7 920's lower clock speed. The advantage of a i7 platform selection are triple interleave memory access (Asus and Gigabyte board among others, not Intel currently), potential faster processors (available now and in the future) and more RAM.

    Though still nothing wrong with a Q9650/X48 proc/chipset selection, the amount of available Core i7/X58 boards and expected i7 processors next month will gradually move focus to the new platform for the high-end and performance minded.
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  • William Nieman
    Hi Paul,
    Good to hear from you!
    Presently I am looking at the ASUS P6T WS PRO LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard.
    Last year I was looking more at Intel boars for stability, but when I was on the Newegg website, I found Asus technicians answering the threads with tech issues. It's about time. It's an interesting time to buy I think this i7 thing is really a good thing. I'll keep an eye out for new boards from Intel however.

    I'll opt for the 3.2GHz i7

    This board I found in the server section and it supports 4 slots of DDR3 1600(O.C.)/1333/1066. There are 2 RAID controllers, 2- PCI Express 2.0 x 16, 1-PCI Express x1, 1-PCI Slot, 2 x PCI-X, 6 x SATA II

    I like the advice you gave in "What Computer to Get" thread on video cards so I'll probably opt for a 512MB card. I've read that the Nvidea cards are the best for our purposes. Is there any truth to that?

    What about the OS drive? Instead of a raid 0, I think it will be safer running a 10,000rpm single boot drive. That's what I have on the machine I am replacing then I run RAID 1 on my data. But then again I library all my files on a RAID 5 server. Would there be any benefit to copying from the server to RAID 0 on this workstation... processing the files... then sending back to the server for storage.

    Also my server is set up with 6-750GB drives on RAID 5. I have the option of RAID 10. How safe is RAID 10.

    Oh yes, one more thing XP Pro 64 or Vista, which one?

    I always find your point of view helpful, plus solid as a rock.

    Bill N. 😄
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  • Permanently deleted user
    William...not Paul here, but a user that's running two similar computers with 64 bit OS'es, one Vista and one XP. I am seeing a need to move XP to Vista (although I'm waiitng for a firm announcement on Win7).....and I'm not reluctant to do that. I would not advise purchasing XP64 for a new computer. Vista/Win7 will be supported whereas XP is showing incompatabilities that will not be resolved as it's a deadend....those will grow over time. FWIW, when Sam's clubs are selling $600 computers with Vista 64 installed, you can assume it's working and working well today despite Apple commercials to the contrary...<g>...
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  • William Nieman
    John,
    Thanks for your response. My neigbor, in the computer shop next door, says Vista is no good. But I sorta think that it's mature enogh by now to give it a try. My gosh with the new C1 4 pro out, I have to build something that will run it. And as long as I stay with name brand components, drivers should be available. And it should also run the 32bit apps that I have left.

    Again, Thanks for your advice!

    Bill N 😄
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  • William Nieman
    John,
    Thanks for your response. My neigbor, in the computer shop next door, says Vista is no good. But I sorta think that it's mature enogh by now to give it a try. My gosh with the new C1 4 pro out, I have to build something that will run it. And as long as I stay with name brand components, drivers should be available. And it should also run the 32bit apps that I have left.

    Again, Thanks for your advice!

    Bill N 😄
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