Feature Request: Recipe(s) to Remember Absolute Output Path
Greetings and Salutations—
I have a feature request that is sound and practical. Let me know what you guys think. In the current 7.0.1 version, any recipe I create defaults to the output folder. Let take the following of my Recipes.
Output 100%: Exports TIFFs into the output folder at 100% file size.
Output 120%: Exports TIFFs into the output folder at 120% file size (extrapolated).
JPEG: Exports JPEGs sized to 700 pixels shortest length for blogging and snapshot purposes. Export to Desktop.
Here lies the problem.
I could change the output folder to "Desktop," but in doing so, I am also changing my 100% and 120% to Desktop—which I do NOT want. I want my TIFFs to be exported into my "TIFF" output folder.
I would like the recipe to remember the absolute folder path. I would like the ability for my "JPEG" recipe to save the JPEG file to my desktop.
Am I making sense?
If you agree with me, please log into your PhaseONE account and reference this thread and submit a vote for the feature request. Thank you for your time to read my post.
Yours cordially,
I have a feature request that is sound and practical. Let me know what you guys think. In the current 7.0.1 version, any recipe I create defaults to the output folder. Let take the following of my Recipes.
Output 100%: Exports TIFFs into the output folder at 100% file size.
Output 120%: Exports TIFFs into the output folder at 120% file size (extrapolated).
JPEG: Exports JPEGs sized to 700 pixels shortest length for blogging and snapshot purposes. Export to Desktop.
Here lies the problem.
I could change the output folder to "Desktop," but in doing so, I am also changing my 100% and 120% to Desktop—which I do NOT want. I want my TIFFs to be exported into my "TIFF" output folder.
I would like the recipe to remember the absolute folder path. I would like the ability for my "JPEG" recipe to save the JPEG file to my desktop.
Am I making sense?
If you agree with me, please log into your PhaseONE account and reference this thread and submit a vote for the feature request. Thank you for your time to read my post.
Yours cordially,
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Hi Ronald,
I certainly agree with your suggestion but I am a little puzzled since, so far as I can tell, it is already possible to place each output recipe in a specified folder using V6. The folder for each recipe could be common with other recipes or unique.
Has V7 changed this or are you seeking additional functionality that I may have missed between my understanding of the existing (V6) functionality and what you are proposing?
I don't think the current options are perfect. I find it very easy to forget to make a suitable change to a recipe when processing and so additional "assistance" could be useful. But that is probably something that is rather user dependent. I would have to give it some considered thought before describing a new wish list entry.
Being able to run the multiple output processes (when I need them) in the background and as an unattended batch is, for me, a great way to get things done whilst I am involved with other things.
Grant Perkins0 -
Hi Ronald, as far as I understand your post after careful reading, your proposed functionality is already there (for some time).
Have you discovered the secrets and intricacies of the File tab of each process recipe? It not only gives you full control over the output destination per recipe, but also additional sub folder and sub name per recipe.0 -
Hi Paul,
Having used C1PRO since 3.7.8 I think I would know the software in and out, unless I missed something.
I know there is an option to save in the same folder where the RAW image lies. That's not what I want (in the advanced output tabs).
Were you able to make a recipe that would ALWAYS export to the exact specified path?
In my example, my "JPEG" does exactly that however, I dont' know if the behavior is a "bug" or not. My TIFF export settings also gets changed to desktop (which I do NOT want). In my example, I created the "JPEG" recipe to that my snaps and previews would always export to my Desktop.[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Hi Ronald, as far as I understand your post after careful reading, your proposed functionality is already there (for some time).
Have you discovered the secrets and intricacies of the File tab of each process recipe? It not only gives you full control over the output destination per recipe, but also additional sub folder and sub name per recipe.0 -
Hi Grant,
I am using the trial 7.0.1 (latest build) and my TIFFs (if you follow my example) also gets changed to Desktop, which I do NOT want. There lies the problem.[quote="SFA" wrote:
Hi Ronald,
I certainly agree with your suggestion but I am a little puzzled since, so far as I can tell, it is already possible to place each output recipe in a specified folder using V6. The folder for each recipe could be common with other recipes or unique.
Has V7 changed this or are you seeking additional functionality that I may have missed between my understanding of the existing (V6) functionality and what you are proposing?
I don't think the current options are perfect. I find it very easy to forget to make a suitable change to a recipe when processing and so additional "assistance" could be useful. But that is probably something that is rather user dependent. I would have to give it some considered thought before describing a new wish list entry.
Being able to run the multiple output processes (when I need them) in the background and as an unattended batch is, for me, a great way to get things done whilst I am involved with other things.
Grant Perkins0 -
As I understand your request, you want the equivalent of "Output 1", "Output 2", and "Output 3" which is independent of the folder the raw is in, and that you can simply set it and leave it.
I would use this sometimes, but not a lot, as I like to store most of my output in a subfolder of the raw image folder.
But I'd like to see it implemented for the times I would use it.0 -
There we go. Jim gets me.
Right now, my folder structure is as follows: [Read top to bottom].
[Name of Session]
—[YYYY-MM-DD]
—[Selects]
—[TIFF]
—[Trash]
You all know this structure. The default process recipe outputs to "TIFF" ("Output" is the default name for the output folder). On most occasions, I want to have snaps and previews to blog and so (using my first example when I started the thread), I would create "JPEG" and have "JPEG" ALWAYS . . . ALWAYS export to my Desktop.
For anyone joining in now, as I elect to modify "JPEG" to ALWAYS export to my Dekstop, my TIFF process recipes also gets changed! That is NOT . . . NOT what I want.[quote="Jim MSP" wrote:
As I understand your request, you want the equivalent of "Output 1", "Output 2", and "Output 3" which is independent of the folder the raw is in, and that you can simply set it and leave it.
I would use this sometimes, but not a lot, as I like to store most of my output in a subfolder of the raw image folder.
But I'd like to see it implemented for the times I would use it.0 -
Ah, OK, I understand.
Paul lmay have some tricks perhaps but I don;t know of a direct way around the problem. When I use multiple outputs form a single process it's OK for my purposes if they all drop into different folders on the default output folder. I 'deliver' them from there if I want to move them.
I have a couple of suggestions that may (or may not!) be of som use - you may already have thought of them.
Firstly you could export the versions you want on the desktop to a folder called desktop (or whatever) and simply create a shortcut to that folder that resides on the desktop. It is possible that some aspects of your workflow or system administration for backups or something might be compromised by such an idea and obviously if you want the images on your desktop that is not an obvious way to get it to work for you! Plan B would be to to export to a folder somewhere and copy the folder or its content to the desktop when the task is completed. I think this might be my personal preference in that it allows for easy comparison of what has ended up in the Output after the process to ensure that all has gone as expected.
This would work whether using single image processing or a batch selection.
It you normally use a batch selection an alterntive workflow would be to select the files you want to proocess and run more than one batch. So you might have one batch that populates 2 new folders in 'Output' (or wherever) and once you have set that task in process use the same file selection but a modified process recipe to put your jpg output to the desktop. However whilst that is quite a quick things to do for a batch process and probably adds little or no time to the overallbatch run timing, it is not very convenient for sending individual files to the output processes as you finish processing them one by one.
So the requirement can make a lot of sense in that situation and is certainly worthy of suggestion.
Grant Perkins0 -
[quote="ronaldnztan" wrote:
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Were you able to make a recipe that would ALWAYS export to the exact specified path?
Yes.
The concept of file location in the Process Recipe's File tab (Advanced tab in CO6 and earlier) is two-fold, that is you have two kind of options:
a) you set a fixed path, independent from session
b) you set a path, relative to session
Because you can set this per recipe, you can do one without having to give up the other option for another recipe.0 -
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
[quote="ronaldnztan" wrote:
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Were you able to make a recipe that would ALWAYS export to the exact specified path?
Yes.
The concept of file location in the Process Recipe's File tab (Advanced tab in CO6 and earlier) is two-fold, that is you have two kind of options:
a) you set a fixed path, independent from session
b) you set a path, relative to session
Because you can set this per recipe, you can do one without having to give up the other option for another recipe.
Paul
Is this new for V7 along with all of the new export features?
I have not seen this particular new oppoertunity mentioned in the descriptions of new features that I have read so far - but I could have missed it since there is so much to absorb!
V6 certainly behaves as Ronald has described and I have never found a way to make it different.
Not, currently, a problem for me but I can see that it might be for others.
Grant Perkins0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
[quote="ronaldnztan" wrote:
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Were you able to make a recipe that would ALWAYS export to the exact specified path?
Yes.
The concept of file location in the Process Recipe's File tab (Advanced tab in CO6 and earlier) is two-fold, that is you have two kind of options:
a) you set a fixed path, independent from session
b) you set a path, relative to session
Because you can set this per recipe, you can do one without having to give up the other option for another recipe.
Paul
Is this new for V7 along with all of the new export features?
No, has been there in CO6 and CO5 probably too.
The export features are a different story to the topic running here: Export Variant is a one-step processing but without the advancements of recipes; Export Originals is no processing at all, it exports the original image file (typically the raw file) to a folder, optionally with settings.0 -
Hi Ronald, the feature you request is already there (for many years), as I described earlier in this thread. Please let me know which part of my explanation was not clear to you and I'll do my best to make it help you understand. 0 -
Paul,
I understood you the first time. If you look at my video, I have three Process Recipes (PRs): JPEG, Output 100%, and Output 120%. I want the two Output PRs to export to my default output folder in the session scheme. In my case, I have elected to rename "Output" to "TIFF." When chosen, my TIFFs processed via one of the Output PRs will be sent to the "TIFF" folder.
The problem lies when I create "JPEG" PR and choose to export to Desktop. By changing to Desktop for my "JPEG" PR, my other TIFF PRs gets changed to Desktop—I do not wish this!
I know about the "File" tab. I could either choose "Output" at the root or "Image." When "Image" is chosen, the file will be exported to the same folder where the RAW file resides. I don't want this. When "Output" is chosen, the file will be sent to the output folder. In my case, "TIFF."
I want each PR I create to REMEMBER the path and independent of one another!
How many PRs do you have Paul?
Create a new one and change that PR into your Desktop or where ever you want, e.g. another hard drive or some folder somewhere on your computer.
Now . . . go and look at the path of the remainder of your PRs. You will see them changed to the new path.[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Hi Ronald, the feature you request is already there (for many years), as I described earlier in this thread. Please let me know which part of my explanation was not clear to you and I'll do my best to make it help you understand.0 -
Hi Ronald,
Your last post got me thinking. We both were right. It is not possible (you are right), and it is possible (I am right).
Hmmm????
Yes, I was looking on Mac, you are on Windows, and I just remembered that I discovered a limitation in CO6/Win some time ago with respect to output locations in process recipes.
To cut a long story short, the feature you request is already on Mac but has not been fully implemented on Windows side.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/Paul_S57/CO70164201Mac_008.png
You can see the option to select any folder, which is missing on Windows. This allows you to select a folder like Desktop (which I did as you can see in the picture) for a particular recipe.
I will contact Phase One on this (as I did on your previous posts on the output/TIFF folder) and request for alignment (which is the term for resolving Mac/Win differences).
Sorry for the confusion.0 -
YES!!! Thank you.
😊[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Hi Ronald,
Your last post got me thinking. We both were right. It is not possible (you are right), and it is possible (I am right).
Hmmm????
Yes, I was looking on Mac, you are on Windows, and I just remembered that I discovered a limitation in CO6/Win some time ago with respect to output locations in process recipes.
To cut a long story short, the feature you request is already on Mac but has not been fully implemented on Windows side.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/Paul_S57/CO70164201Mac_008.png
You can see the option to select any folder, which is missing on Windows. This allows you to select a folder like Desktop (which I did as you can see in the picture) for a particular recipe.
I will contact Phase One on this (as I did on your previous posts on the output/TIFF folder) and request for alignment (which is the term for resolving Mac/Win differences).
Sorry for the confusion.0 -
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:
Paul
Is this new for V7 along with all of the new export features?
No, has been there in CO6 and CO5 probably too.
The export features are a different story to the topic running here: Export Variant is a one-step processing but without the advancements of recipes; Export Originals is no processing at all, it exports the original image file (typically the raw file) to a folder, optionally with settings.
My apologies for mentioning Exports and confusing things. I meant Outputs. In other applications I use the things that are known as Outputs in C1 are often called Exports. Sometimes terminology can cause more confusion than it avoids! But that is no excuse for me using the wrong terminology for the product under discussion.
The differences between Mac and Windows explains the problem. Thanks Paul. I will be good to see the functionality aligned.
Grant Perkins0 -
UPDATED!!!
This has been fixed in C1PRO 7.1.1. I am happy. Thank you C1PRO development team for taking into consideration a practical and workflow-enhancing feature request for PC users. As Paul explained several months ago, MAC users do not face the inconvenience.
I appreciated C1PRO very much!
Yours respectfully,
Ronald[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
Hi Ronald,
Your last post got me thinking. We both were right. It is not possible (you are right), and it is possible (I am right).
Hmmm????
Yes, I was looking on Mac, you are on Windows, and I just remembered that I discovered a limitation in CO6/Win some time ago with respect to output locations in process recipes.
To cut a long story short, the feature you request is already on Mac but has not been fully implemented on Windows side.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h366/Paul_S57/CO70164201Mac_008.png
You can see the option to select any folder, which is missing on Windows. This allows you to select a folder like Desktop (which I did as you can see in the picture) for a particular recipe.
I will contact Phase One on this (as I did on your previous posts on the output/TIFF folder) and request for alignment (which is the term for resolving Mac/Win differences).
Sorry for the confusion.0
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