Importing many directories

Jerry C

2019年06月06日 14:26

By directories, I presume you are using the DOS/UNIX term now referred to in MacOS and Windows as folders. If your objective is to replicate the directories as projects or albums in a Capture One collection, you would probably have to write an AppleScript to do so. If you do, you can include an import option to leave the image files where they are as referenced files.If you do this, your directory structure will remain as it is and be seen as folders ib Capture One.

If your directories and subdirectories are not arranged in a hirarchal structure, this is going to be more difficult.

Jerry C

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Benjamin Liddle

2019年06月06日 20:51

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
Hi!

I have my photograph RAW files in many directories.

How do I import them, a separate catalog foe each directory, in one action? Until now I have been importing one directory at a time into a catalog. This is very tedious. I am happy for each catalog to have the same name as the directory.

Thanks

Out of curiosity, why do you want a separate catalog for each folder? If you can use just one catalog, you could simply point to the top directory of the images you'd like to import, check Include Subfolders, and all the images within will populate the import window. Set Destination to Current Location to prevent the files from being copied elsewhere. When imported, the entire structure of folders will be added to the System Folders section of the Library.

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SFA

2019年06月06日 21:54

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
Hi!

I have my photograph RAW files in many directories.

How do I import them, a separate catalog foe each directory, in one action? Until now I have been importing one directory at a time into a catalog. This is very tedious. I am happy for each catalog to have the same name as the directory.

Thanks

It sounds like you really need to be using sessions although that alone will not resolve you problem.

Extending ben's question - do you really NEED to import all of your existing RAW files?

Are you planning to re-edit everything?

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月07日 13:00

It sounds like you really need to be using sessions although that alone will not resolve you problem.

Extending ben's question - do you really NEED to import all of your existing RAW files?

Are you planning to re-edit everything?

I'm not why you re-edit? Everything is RAW and needs to be edited. I don't yet know until I have them in C1 which I will work on now, later or never.
I thought that's what work-in-progress is.

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SFA

2019年06月07日 13:36

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
It sounds like you really need to be using sessions although that alone will not resolve you problem.

Extending ben's question - do you really NEED to import all of your existing RAW files?

Are you planning to re-edit everything?

I'm not why you re-edit? Everything is RAW and needs to be edited. I don't yet know until I have them in C1 which I will work on now, later or never.
I thought that's what work-in-progress is.

Your description sounds like you are planing to work with many existing folders - typically that might indicate that you have already processed a lot of files using a different software system or systems. You may have many thousands of files and reality suggests that re-editing in new software would be a large task. If you were not planning to re-edit there would be no particular need to import the files. Nor any obvious benefit unless the existing edits could be applied somehow.

So from your answer I could suggest that you could import one folder at a time since a mass import is not imperative.

Or, perhaps better, use session(s) to assess each folder and choose the images you really want to edit, edit them and then add them to a/the catalogue.

If you use a session you don't HAVE TO import anything at all - unless you wish to take advantage of renaming features and a few other options that can be applied automatically using the import process but would need to be applied specifically if not importing.

HTH.

Grant

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Eric Valk

2019年06月07日 14:57

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
Hi!

I have my photograph RAW files in many directories.

How do I import them, a separate catalog foe each directory, in one action? Until now I have been importing one directory at a time into a catalog. This is very tedious. I am happy for each catalog to have the same name as the directory.

Thanks

The way you are working with Capture One (1 catalog per folder) is probably the most painful way to use it. Considerable is effort required for little gain.

A far more efficient way would be to find the "Base" OSX folder that contains all or most of your folders that contain the RAW image files you want to edit.

Now make a new catalog "Main", import "All Images" into this catalog with the settings:

import subfolders - selected

Exclude Duplicates - not selected

Destination - Current Location

Collection - Recent Imports Only

This will import a large number of folders and images at once.

You can repeat this import into Main if your image collection is split in OSX and has several "Base" folders.

You can now use Capture One's Library tool in its Folders section to access all your images by the OSX folder in which they were located. No need to open and close multiple catalogs.

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月11日 15:36

Thanks Eric.

My 18 subfolders contain RAW and TIFF files. Each folder represents one day of shooting. The reason there are also TIFFs is because I have created HDRs from RAW for some of the files using other s/w.

I have set up as you suggest. However it seems to me that all the files I have selected will all go into one catalog, which is not what I want. I would like to have a separate catalog for each day, which is how I would work if there was not a catalog system in C1 (or on another program).

Also I note that on selecting ALL files, I see the RAWs but not the TIFFs. I could drag these in afterwards, but why should I need to do that? Or is there a setting that alklows me to control which file types I am importing.

Thanks.

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SFA

2019年06月11日 16:32

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
Thanks Eric.

My 18 subfolders contain RAW and TIFF files. Each folder represents one day of shooting. The reason there are also TIFFs is because I have created HDRs from RAW for some of the files using other s/w.

I have set up as you suggest. However it seems to me that all the files I have selected will all go into one catalog, which is not what I want. I would like to have a separate catalog for each day, which is how I would work if there was not a catalog system in C1 (or on another program).

Also I note that on selecting ALL files, I see the RAWs but not the TIFFs. I could drag these in afterwards, but why should I need to do that? Or is there a setting that alklows me to control which file types I am importing.

Thanks.

I would use a session per folder rather than a catalogue but the choice is yours

Check that you have TIFF editing enabled in the Image Preferences.

There are some constraints for editing related to Image size (Min and max dimensions) and they must identify as Colour not B&W (even if they are monochrome) but otherwise they should appear. Check the Release Notes for further information.

Importing is useful but not entirely necessary when using sessions and therefore easy to discover whether C1 dislikes anything about the TIFF files.

I can't think of anything else.

HTH.

Grant

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Eric Valk

2019年06月11日 16:38

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
..... I see the RAWs but not the TIFFs

Sometimes C1 will not show files that it cannot import. But there is also a setting "Always Hide Processed TIFF files" in View>Global Settings. Check that you have not enabled that.
It is also possible that the TIFFs created by your HDR tool are not supported by Capture One. I have several HDR tools, which one are you using?

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
..... However it seems to me that all the files I have selected will all go into one catalog, which is not what I want. I would like to have a separate catalog for each day, which is how I would work if there was not a catalog system in C1 (or on another program).

Yes. If separate Catalogs is what you must have, then IMO a Catalog is a poor choice for you, as the Catalog is designed and optimised to handle 1000's of images from multiple shoots; you will keep runnning into parts of the catalog that are no value to you but require work.

I think you will be better off using Session for each day of shooting instead, that is what it is designed for. But then you must import into each sSession separately. 18 Sessions is not that much work to make into Sessions, would be different if you had 100's of folders with RAWs and TIFFs from one days shooting.

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月14日 07:55

[quote="Eric Nepean" wrote:
[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
..... I see the RAWs but not the TIFFs<br>

It is also possible that the TIFFs created by your HDR tool are not supported by Capture One. I have several HDR tools, which one are you using?

I used AuroraHDR 2018. What I have done until now is to import the TIFFs by dragging them after I have imported the RAWs.

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月14日 08:05

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
..... However it seems to me that all the files I have selected will all go into one catalog, which is not what I want. I would like to have a separate catalog for each day, which is how I would work if there was not a catalog system in C1 (or on another program).

Yes. If separate Catalogs is what you must have, then IMO a Catalog is a poor choice for you, as the Catalog is designed and optimised to handle 1000's of images from multiple shoots; you will keep running into parts of the catalog that are no value to you but require work.

I think you will be better off using Session for each day of shooting instead, that is what it is designed for. But then you must import into each session separately. 18 Sessions is not that much work to make into Sessions, would be different if you had 100's of folders with RAWs and TIFFs from one days shooting.

I'm not sure, other than the way the data is stored, what is the difference between catalogs and sessions. If there is a tutorial then I would be happy to read it.

Usually I want to have as a "group" one day's, or one session's, shoots; an amount which I can control and see with my small mind. That is to say a group of photographs that have some common thread from I wish to select on which photographs I want to work on. IMHO every photograph I take needs a lot of work. That's my workflow. A RAW file is a canvas on which to create my vision, the vision, mostly, I had when I took the photograph. So from any shoot session, I am to end up with a handful of work from the shoot.

In the end I did create 18 catalogs, but it was tedious and I think that C1 should provide an easier route. But I may be missing something that C1 does ☹️

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SFA

2019年06月14日 10:23

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
..... However it seems to me that all the files I have selected will all go into one catalog, which is not what I want. I would like to have a separate catalog for each day, which is how I would work if there was not a catalog system in C1 (or on another program).

Yes. If separate Catalogs is what you must have, then IMO a Catalog is a poor choice for you, as the Catalog is designed and optimised to handle 1000's of images from multiple shoots; you will keep running into parts of the catalog that are no value to you but require work.

I think you will be better off using Session for each day of shooting instead, that is what it is designed for. But then you must import into each session separately. 18 Sessions is not that much work to make into Sessions, would be different if you had 100's of folders with RAWs and TIFFs from one days shooting.

I'm not sure, other than the way the data is stored, what is the difference between catalogs and sessions. If there is a tutorial then I would be happy to read it.

Usually I want to have as a "group" one day's, or one session's, shoots; an amount which I can control and see with my small mind. That is to say a group of photographs that have some common thread from I wish to select on which photographs I want to work on. IMHO every photograph I take needs a lot of work. That's my workflow. A RAW file is a canvas on which to create my vision, the vision, mostly, I had when I took the photograph. So from any shoot session, I am to end up with a handful of work from the shoot.

In the end I did create 18 catalogs, but it was tedious and I think that C1 should provide an easier route. But I may be missing something that C1 does ☹️

Use Sessions.

There are a number of tutorials and webinar recordings that you might find helpful. The Resource Hub should be a good way to find those of interest quickly.

HTH.

Grant

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月14日 13:51

Thanks Grant

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Eric Valk

2019年06月14日 14:26

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
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I'm not sure, other than the way the data is stored, what is the difference between catalogs and sessions. If there is a tutorial then I would be happy to read it.

What does one use a catalog for?

Lets say you have a catalog containing 10,000 images taken over along period of time.
You can quickly find

All Images taken with a certain lens

All Images taken with a certain camera

All Images pertaining to a certain topic

All Images taken in a certain location

All images taken during a certain date range

More than that, you can organize each image in several different ways, without regard to the storage location of the image file and without duplicating the image file.

Consider three shoots, taken at different times. Shoot 1 has images for Topic A and B. Shoot 2 has images for topic B. Shoot 3 has images for topic B and C.

You could put all the images from each shoot in its dedicated OSX folder, or even in a common OSX folder.
You would then create three projects, one for each shoot and work on each one separately. A project has most of the features of a Session.

But now you can also create an album for the best images, and also albums for Topic A, Topic B and Topic C.
Any one image can be in multiple albums. Adjustment and Metadata changes and variants added in any album are also shown in the other albums.

If an image for example happens to cover both Topic B and Topic C, it can be in the Shoot 3, Topic B, Topic C and Best albums.

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Jill Kuchar

2019年06月16日 09:57

Thanks Eric

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OddS.

2019年06月16日 10:31

[quote="NNN636364181394546668" wrote:
...I'm not sure, other than the way the data is stored, what is the difference between catalogs and sessions. If there is a tutorial then I would be happy to read it.

Not a tutorial, but I think this 2+ years old article by Dough Peterson may still be relevant: https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/catal ... tle-times/

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