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Importing and Duplicates

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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    Unfortunately there is no way to detect duplicates in C1, which is of course a great feature to have.
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  • bobbyjones
    How is this still a thing?

    It's these little irritating things that kill my workflow and keep me from switching to C1 from Lightroom.

    This is an essential feature that should have been added years ago... and people are still complaining about it.

    I just tried Capture One 9 to see if this feature was there... No!

    I could rant on and on about this... But apparently Phase One does not listen to it's users.

    How is this still a thing!

    ffs.
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  • SFA
    It's easily managed.

    Why is it such a big deal?


    Grant
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  • bobbyjones
    This is why it's such a big deal...

    Let's say I have a 64GB card with 800 photos from day one of a shoot and I import those into C1.

    On day 2 I shoot another 400 photos.

    I shoot interiors and I do a tremendous amount of flash exposure blending. I also shoot 10 hour days and sometimes the whole shoot is a bit of a blur when I import images. I don't like to format my cards until the entire shoot is done. I want the images in as many places as possible.

    I have to manually find where the day two images start on the card and deselect the day one images.

    What's WORSE is if you accidentally import those 800 images into your library and then you manually have to delete them all. When I first tried C1 I assumed it had this feature and I had to delete hundreds of duplicate images from my catalog.

    Why on earth would I want duplicates of all my photos in a catalog?

    It's a HUGE headache... and a deal breaker. Literally everyone coming from Lightroom scratches their head at this.

    Capture One is riddled with "deal breakers" that stop LR users from switching. This feature seems like it would take a programmer a morning to implement. I really don't care how long it takes a programmer, this is a required feature.

    The fact that you can't stop C1 from importing duplicates is just stupid.
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  • SFA
    You can filter what you import by various criteria.

    One criterion that works rather well is to filter by date.

    Save the date filter as a Preset and you can invoke it in 2 clicks every time you need it. If you save it after each use (presumably with latest up to date shoot date?) it would be one more click to scroll the day number up to the next day's images to see what that selects.

    I shoot multi-day events and, like you, I like to keep the cards as backup to my usually double saved daily shoots (to disk, not to C1, when I am on the road.)

    In my case I can usually find the start of a day easily enough on a card but if I think it might be a challenge for some reason I'll shoot a "marker" image that is easily spotted when scrolling through the images. (This is useful for doing the nightly backups when the C1 date filter is not available to me.)

    I use sessions not catalogues. I like the idea of sessions. It was the enforced requirement to work with catalogues that originally put me off the early versions of LR.

    C1 sessions have never attempted to manage previously imported files as far as I know.

    I vaguely remember that the first instance of C1 Catalogues did attempt to identify files previously imported to a catalogue if from a recognised disk but that might have been something to do with synchronisation.

    If it was for direct import (to an existing catalogue from a previously known and repeatedly identifiable disk) then it seems to be something that has been dropped over time - presumably based on user feedback.

    No matter what the history has been I would strongly recommend the filter approach to import selection together with the powerful referenced folder naming and file naming functions.

    Alternatively, especially when dealing with multi-day shoots on location, the use of sessions seems appropriate and the results can easily be imported to one or more libraries (if required).

    Either way the import filter by date approach should prove useful.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • bobbyjones
    I normally back up at least once during lunch and then at home after the shoot.

    I don't even want to think when I back up, I just want to push a button and know it's taken care of.

    Lightroom simply greys out the files I have already imported and copies the rest.

    I simply can't use C1 at this critical stage because of this lack of functionality.

    I've been trying C1 since v7 to see what all the hype is about. It looks like it could be such an amazing tool!

    But the experience is always full of these stupid deal-breaking headaches.

    Maybe they will implement it in v10.

    Probably not...
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  • NN634708402639857718UL
    "Maybe they will implement it in v10. "

    File a support case feature request. That's how they prioritize things. 😉
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    Yeh, sometimes it is annoyning, that C1 does not detect duplicates, unfortunately.

    Experience is completely different from Lightroom, because C1 mainly focused on tethering, Rather then DAM features, but 9 version gives us a hint that they are working on that 😊
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