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MP change my RAW Files why?

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  • rmoorlag
    I can not access the image (403 - Forbidden) but why do you synchronize while you don't want the information to synchronize?
    It's the purpose of synchronizing to bring information from the database into the image and vice versa. Both options are availlable in MP.
    When you don't want to change your RAW files, don't synchronize..
    Or do i not understand the question well?
    Roelof
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  • nggalai
    [quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
    It's the purpose of synchronizing to bring information from the database into the image and vice versa. Both options are availlable in MP.
    When you don't want to change your RAW files, don't synchronize..
    Or do i not understand the question well?
    Roelof


    As far as I know, you’ll need to synchronise metadata to be able to export images with metadata using CaptureOne rather than MediaPro. According to a support case I had opened a while ago this is the preferred way for exporting pictures, especially if you need metadata in the exported JPEG/TIFF files (e.g. MediaPro doesn’t export GPS information).

    Problem is that MediaPro apparently overwrites some previously added XMP metadata by doing so, including ACR development settings: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11626
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  • Paul Silk
    [quote="nggalai" wrote:


    Problem is that MediaPro apparently overwrites some previously added XMP metadata by doing so, including ACR development settings: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11626


    This is no longer the case with the latest version (at least on Windows), you can sync info using MP and not loose development info in ACR.

    Also any GPS data added in Lightroom or any other program stays intact and is not removed by MP (even though it does not show in MP) and is even honoured and passed into the exported file by Capture One.
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  • Jim MSP
    [quote="Paul Silk" wrote:

    This is no longer the case with the latest version (at least on Windows), you can sync info using MP and not loose development info in ACR.


    I thought this was the case I also saw with LR 3.6 and the latest MP. However, I have been trying the new LR4, and I am losing the LR edits when I send the MP info over.

    Jim
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  • Paul Silk
    Jim works fine on LR4 RC2.
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  • Jim MSP
    I am using LR4 RC2.

    However, I am still on MP 1.1. I guess I should try 1.2, though I had understood that to be mostly updates for Mac users.

    Jim
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  • Paul Silk
    Jim I can only say what I am finding.

    I Just imported a brand new raw file into LR4 made development settings and added GPS data, then wrote that info to xmp with LR. Next added keywords and other metadata in MP1.2 and synced them, this then showed in LR4 as new metadata change with option to read of the disc (write mp1's metadata over LR4's) or overwrite with LR4's metadata.

    I chose read from disc to overwrite LR's metada with MP1's. The edits and GPS data is still there, I even used Elements 9 to import the raw file using the xmp file into its ACR window and ACRs edits are still there.
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  • Jim MSP
    I just installed the new MP 1.2
    This works well with LR 4 RC2 as you indicated.

    I was just leery about making a change in something that seems to work well for me. I'm still a version behind in CO, using 6.3.4, and not 6.4.1. I always hate making changes to a system that works when I understand that the upgrade may not show me any improvement. I have never had a problem with any upgrades, but I read where others have them, and I just want to avoid them.

    OK. On to 6.4.1 as well.
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  • nggalai
    [quote="Paul Silk" wrote:
    This is no longer the case with the latest version (at least on Windows), you can sync info using MP and not loose development info in ACR.


    Ah, excellent. That’s why I wrote “apparentlyâ€, I haven’t double-checked it with the MP1.2 + LR4 combo.

    [quote="Paul Silk" wrote:
    Also any GPS data added in Lightroom or any other program stays intact and is not removed by MP (even though it does not show in MP) and is even honoured and passed into the exported file by Capture One.


    Na, the issue I described was this GPS data will not be included in an exported JPEG when exporting fom MediaPro. It is included exporting via CaptureOne, hence PhaseOne support’s answer to use CaptureOne whenever possible, a while ago. The GPS info shows up fine in MediaPro, CaptureOne, and any other application, but not in files exported using MediaPro’s Convert option. That’s why I opened said support case.

    The MediaPro beta I used until it expired two days ago behaved the same.

    Anyway, considering the original question – if you want metadata added in MediaPro show up / be exported with CaptureOne, you’ll need to sync. And it seems no matter what setting you use, it touches the RAW original. That’s fine by me (I am a DNG user), but horses of corses.
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  • Paul Silk
    [quote="nggalai" wrote:
    And it seems no matter what setting you use, it touches the RAW original. That’s fine by me (I am a DNG user), but horses of corses.


    Actually it does not (unless it is a DNG File)as any metadata is written to a seperate sidecar xmp file and not the original raw file. 😊
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  • nggalai
    [quote="Paul Silk" wrote:
    [quote="nggalai" wrote:
    And it seems no matter what setting you use, it touches the RAW original. That’s fine by me (I am a DNG user), but horses of corses.


    Actually it does not (unless it is a DNG File)as any metadata is written to a seperate sidecar xmp file and not the original raw file. 😊

    Haha, okay, tunnel vision. 😄 In this case, I don’t understand the original poster’s question. Unless he wants the XMP written by other applications untouched, too; which begs the question why to edit XMP data in MediaPro to begin with.
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  • RobiWan
    Hi guys,

    I try again - my intention was that MP only write any changes in the sidecar file *.xmp not in my RAW files too.
    I have set on export settings :"Create XMP sidecar Metadata files: always". After I synchronize the changes there are RAW Files changed too.
    I do not need any compatibility (for now) with LR, I will try to use MP with C1 but my RAW files should never chanced.
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  • RobiWan
    Hi again,

    is there really no way at this time to tell Media pro "never change RAW Files. Write all Data in Sidecar XMP Files"?

    Bye
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  • PhaseZero
    [quote="RobiWan" wrote:
    Hi again, is there really no way at this time to tell Media pro "never change RAW Files. Write all Data in Sidecar XMP Files"?

    The only way seems be to exist with read-only image files. But with JPG files this does not work in MP. That is the reason why I am using MP only for special media files and another DAM SW for all digital image files. The full flexibility with XMP files is a big missing feature of MP and LR and a big advantage of IDI.

    Regards from PhaseZero
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  • RobiWan
    [quote="PhaseZero" wrote:
    The only way seems be to exist with read-only image files.


    This way does not work with MP. If I try to sync Annotations and the RAW Files are RO, then MP will don't do anything.

    [quote="PhaseZero" wrote:

    That is the reason why I am using MP only for special media files and another DAM SW for all digital image files. The full flexibility with XMP files is a big missing feature of MP and LR and a big advantage of IDI.


    Which another DAM - LR?
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  • PhaseZero
    You are right Robi with ReadOnly limitation,

    I was not aware that this limitation is also existing for RAW files. Some time ago I tried ReadOnly for JPGs in MP and then the optional XMPs were no longer updated. It seems, that MP does not like write protection for all media files, where metadata can be embedded. MP updates either such files together with XMP or none of them. That is a relevant drawback with MP and reason why I switched to IDimager for image files from digital cameras. I tested also LIghtroom but was not happy about its DAM, network and other features. LR does also not support XMP files for JPG.

    For all other office and multimedia files (icons, audio clips, video clips, doc/pdf, ttf fonts, ...) I like, use and prefer MP very much.

    Regards from PhaseZero
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