Upgrading Session from CO 10 to CO 11
I just tried to import a CO10 session into 11 and I upgraded but then I lost all my editing from CO10. Has anyone experienced this? I renamed the backup and I got back all the edits in CO 10, phew! I'm a little worried that if I make the transition from 10 to 11, I'll loose all my editing work.
Please help.
Paul
Please help.
Paul
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Being loose and losing your work are two totally different things 😉
I just started a new session, didn't lose a thing...0 -
Thanks for the clarification! Did you start a new session from a previous CO 10 session? My issue is that I couldn't get my adjustments carried over to CO 11.
Thanks in advance.
Paul0 -
What exactly did you do?
If you open an existing session from an older version of C1 in a new version the conversion of the cosessiondb file and the automatic saving a renamed copy of the previous session should be all that is required for the session file.
However the results for what you then see may vary depending upon how you had used the session process.
(At this point I am assuming that when you wrote "session" you means a session as per the terminology of Capture One - definitely not a catalogue?)
So for your session, were in folders with images within the session folder structure provided automatically? I.e. in the Capture folder or you own folders within that folder. In that case the adjustments, etc., will be in files in subfolder(s) of the folder where the images are stored.
Or were you referencing other folders available to your PC and making them "Favourites" in C1? In which case the edits will be in sub folders in those folders.
Or have you simply been opening folders through C1 (no import and not marked as a Favourite) and editing files? In that case the edits will still exist as above but the session database will have no reference to them.
Basically that is what may happen. There is a little more to it than that but at this point that is really what you need to know to investigate and see what appears to happen.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Hi Grant, thank you for your reply. Here's the process I use since CO V 7
1. I always use sessions and never catalogs (Main reason to leave LR many years ago)
2. I alway import using CO's default folder structure.
In this case I imported the files from the card using CO 10 and did the edits in CO 10 exported them for the customer to review. I then decided today to use CO 11 today for the better layers features. I opened the the files using the sessions *.cosessiondb file and when it launched it asked me if I wanted to upgrade and I said yes! When I looked at the files, I realized that the cropping and exposure adjustments were not carried over. I freaked and realized I had a backup of the cosessiondb file. When I renamed it and launched it in 10, everything was back to normal with all my edits in tact.
I decided to try the same process with my laptop and I had the same results.
Not sure if it's a bug or something I did.
Any help would be great!
Paul0 -
Paul,
The Session file update only affects the cosessiondb file. You get a new one (in this case) for the new version and its changes.
Opening a V10 session in V11 will write that file but everything else should look as it was before - the images edits do not have the V11 processing engine applied automatically so you should still see everything you had just as it looked in V10 (or earlier) version and with the same edits, crops, etc. applied at this point.
If you look into a session folder structure from Windows Explorer n a folder containing your source images you would expect to see a "Capture One" subfolder. In there ought to be 2 further folders.
The Cache folder contains sub-folders for Thumbnails and Previews. Both are expendable are they can be recreated and indeed the contents will be modified during editing.
Then there should be one or more "Settings" folders named to identify which version/release they relate to. Opening the images folder (in effect) through the new C1 11 session file should result in a new folder for V11 being create complete with the edits from the previous most recent version of an existing folder.
Now, if you can that folder and it has content and the content, by number and name of files, matched the old version of the folder then you should be able to see the images and edit them in V11.
If there is no folder, or it is empty try selecting the source image folder through C1 11 to see what happens.
Of course I realise that you have probably done exactly that already but nevertheless it would be foolish to try to diagnose what you seeing (or not seeing) without checking the basic functional steps. It's all too easy to overlook things - especially when equipped with some years of experience - or so I find personally and have observed of others many times!
HTH.
Grant0 -
[quote="NNN635018233259472077" wrote:
Thanks for the clarification! Did you start a new session from a previous CO 10 session? My issue is that I couldn't get my adjustments carried over to CO 11.
Thanks in advance.
Paul
I still have my v10 session (running 10 and 11, haven't fully converted to 11 yet.. waiting on a few bugs to get ironed out first)
When v11 opened, I told it to create a new session, it did so and I continued to work.
It's bizarre that you've lost your adjustments. I'll do some testing..0 -
Hi Grant,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I already saw all those folders and files you mentioned and they were all present. So I didn't know if I should do anything with them. After reading you reply, I did see a Folder called Setting 110 which I didn't put too much interest in it. Well, I deleted it and relaunched CO 11 and voila all my CO 10 adjusts were visible in CO 11!! I also noticed that the Setting 110 has returned.
I'll try another job and see if that was a fluke or something like that. The new layers tools are a major move to converting CO from a RAW editor to a multi purpose one. A few features are still missing to make it a basic editor, but I guess there's always V12.
Thank you for taking the time to help out, it's greatly appreciate.
Paul0 -
Hi Paul,
My apologies if you had already investigated at that level I had no way of knowing but in any case someone ready this in the future may not have any information about the concept so where possible I tend to err on the side of basics.
If Settings 110 existed but for some reason was empty, then I could imagine you would see none of your edits. V11 would expect them to be there on "seeing" the folder. Absent the folder it will go for the next lower version and recreate that with the V11 Settings number - 110.
So presumably anyone else with the same problem should simply check that the V11 settings folder exists and is empty (presumably) then delete it (or rename it) and re-open the V10 or earlier session in V11.
All a bit strange as to why it did not seem to work first time but we are talking computers so it's the sort of things we get used to once in a while I guess!
Presumably it would take a little while for C1 to both copy over the .cos, etc., files and run the thumbnail and preview creations when the folders or albums are accessed. That could take a little while for a large session.
Grant0 -
Hi Grant,
The Settings 110 folder was populated with files but it looked like the edits from V10 were not successfully transferred over. Deleting the 110 folder and then restarting V11 solved the problem. It was definitely strange. I'll report back if it reoccurs.
Thank you for all your help.
Paul0 -
[quote="NNN635018233259472077" wrote:
Hi Grant,
The Settings 110 folder was populated with files but it looked like the edits from V10 were not successfully transferred over. Deleting the 110 folder and then restarting V11 solved the problem. It was definitely strange. I'll report back if it reoccurs.
Thank you for all your help.
Paul
Very odd.
If you see it again it would probably be useful to create a Support Case to capture the available technical evidence in the log files close to the point of the event in order to give the C1 crew something to work with.
Grant0
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