2022 updated Feature Requests
I just wanted to do an update post on my wish list from last year. Thanks for adding some of those features so quickly! The updates in 2021 made my workflow so much better! The point of this list is to fill in details on the remaining requests.
1. Capture One still has a ways to go with before and after views. The full before and after version of a photo side by side like in Affinity Photo is sorely missed. I often want to see everything that has changed without having to drag the before and after bar from side to side. This is especially useful to people editing on a large monitor. Split view is nice and you should continue adding more split view options but seeing the full photo twice is a fast way to work on a 27”+ screen.
2. It would be very helpful to drag out sidebar sections and have them lock right next to the default sidebar. When panels float some of the images get lost under the panels. Some people have said if the panel covers the image I could continue dragging them around all day so I can see the full image. That, or course, is silly. The panels should pin to the side of the sidebar and just automatically not obscure the photo. Efficiency is the goal.
3. Put masking color and opacity in an easy location such as an icon at the bottom of the layers panel. This feature has been easy to access in Photoshop for quite some time. It should be easy to access in Capture one as well. In an earlier version of this post I didn't even realize the feature was available because of it being detached from the part of the interface I was already in when using the tool. If I am masking something the layers panel is going to be open so that is where this functionality needs to be.
This feature request is one of the easiest ones to implement as it already is in version 2022 so it doesn't need to be made from scratch. Just needs to be much easier to access and the ability to change the color / opacity settings for that specific adjustment layer with the option under preferences being dedicated to the default setting that would be used in most cases.
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I thought not having the side-by-side comparison of before & after would be an issue after using it in another editor before, but you only mentioned the Split View in C1. Are you aware there is also Full View option? Click and hold the Before/After icon and a drop-down menu appears with the two options (or menu: View > Before/After mode). After you have chosen an option, press (shortcut) Y to switch between before/after. I find the side-by-side view unnecessary now, even with a 27" monitor.
To change mask colour and opacity:
Menu: Edit > Preferences > Appearance0 -
Full view isn't side by side view so there would be no reason for me to bring it up. They are completely different features.
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As far as the masking color and opacity it should be located a lot more conveniently in the interface then its current location multiple clicks under preferences. Why not have another button at the bottom of the layers panel? Switching the way a mask looks is a frequent enough operation to justify its location more front and center in the interface. In Photoshop you change it right in foreground / background button when you are in masking mode. Capture One should be just as easy. Photoshop has had those easy color and opacity switching for quite a while now.
I will update my request to go from color change and opacity to putting it in a better location.
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Fair enough, I can understand side-by-side can sometimes work better.
I agree with you regarding the mask settings. I have already submitted a Support Request (before I discovered Feature Requests in the Forum) on 29/05/21 for an icon to be added to the Layers tool next to the existing masking icons. This way each image edit can retain it's own mask settings and each Layer can have different mask settings. So you'll be getting my vote on this one.
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PS. in the meantime, to make it a little more convenient (or less inconvenient), add the Preferences icon/shortcut to the top Toolbar. Just makes it a little bit easier
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Regarding 1: Foremost, it should be possble to compare two different state of the image, not just the current state vs. the unadjusted "raw" state. One can achieve this however with two variants, including side by side comparison.
Regarding 3: NO more clutter on the interface please, no additional icons. Personally, I change the color only once in a while but even if I did this more often, I vote for no more icons.
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I would say different mask settings for each mask could be really helpful with some images where there is a big different in color and/or brightness. I would bet the reason the versions of Photoshop I used (CS6 and below) couldn't do that is that mask editing pre-dated adjustment layers. If adjustment layers came first it would have been more logical to set the mask's look right from the individual adjustment layer. I haven't used the latest Photoshop so I don't know if this feature has already been added. I'm sure it has by this point. It is the natural evolution of the way an adjustment layer would work.
At this point a lot of photo editors pack all the functionality of adjustment layers along with all the tools associated with object layers into one panel. It almost makes me wonder if those two different type of layers should be put into separate panels. But that is more of a discussion to be had in the Adobe / Affinity forums. At least until Capture One gets into object layers but at that point it starts becoming quite a different product and purpose.
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The more I think about it the preference masking would have a different role from the one in the layers panel. The one under preferences should be your default color and opacity choice so that wouldn't go away. It is still worthwhile to pick a basic color that you want to go with in most situations. Red probably works for a lot of people in this way but if you are someone who shoots a lot of red subject matter you would want to change the default under preferences rather than every time in the layers panel. Each function is trying to solve two different problems.
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Yep, absolutely, that's what I said in my submission, to have a global default setting in that you can change in Preferences, plus independent settings in Layers. Red works most of the time but there are definitely situations where you need a different colour, even in different parts of the same image.
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Along the bottom of the Layers tool there 7 icons related to masking. Adding another one is not going to clutter the interface. When the Magic Brush was added it didn't clutter the interface.
We all want to be able to edit as quickly and efficiently as possible and this would be another small step towards that goal0 -
Hi Boris,
We all want to be able to edit as quickly and efficiently as possible
Yes, and a cluttered interface is counter-productive. And magic brush was another brickstone to that wall, and there will be ohters in the future.
I guess we can only agree to disagree on this point. If I want a cluttered interface with tons of tools and icons I'd go to Affinity Photo.
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@Boris Tomsic
You wrote "When the Magic Brush was added it didn't clutter the interface."
I disagree because I think it is pretty much certain that the "+"/"-" ("add layer" / "delete layer") icons in the "Layers" tool were relocated to a "row" of their own to make way for the addition of the magic brush icon.
Admittedly the worsening of the UI (one can now see fewer layers in the layers list than before) would not have been necessary (the "+"/"-" icons could have still fit) but as you can see, not only has the layer list been compromised but also the Viewer bar gained an unrelated entry which is now less accessible than it was before.
Perhaps the brush dialog icon could be replaced with an icon that takes one to more elaborate brush configurations as the use of the currently existing button should be discouraged (the dialogue is much better accessed with a right-click) to the point of removing it.
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Hi BeO, no worries, all good. I see your point.
Actually, something that only just occurred to me is that if such a feature was implemented it could be added to the Layers Menu ( "- - - " ), which in hindsight would probably be more appropriate0 -
Hi "Class A",
Yes, I did notice that "+" / "-" icons were no longer in the same row. It looks like there is still room for them so I just assumed this was a coding slip-up and could easily be corrected. I've been meaning to submit a Support Request for this but just haven't got around to it yet.But the Layers list no longer expanding with the number of layers like it used to is truly frustrating. Again I haven't got around to submitting a Support Request.
Another related issue I'm having is with the sequence of the Layers. When I drag them up or down into different positions, after I close C1 and re-open it again I find that the sequence of the Layers has reverted back to the order they were created in. For this I have submitted a Support Request but they have so far been unable to resolve it as they are unable to replicate it and it seems no-one else is having this issue. Is anyone finding this problem? I wonder if this is all related? I can't remember exactly when it started happening, it was either from the release if V.21 or after an update (maybe with the Magic Brush? have all these problems been caused by the Magic Brush?? I've gotta say tho, the Magic Brush is brilliant! )
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Hi Boris,
I'm glad you agree that the new "+" / "-" icons placement is suboptimal. Please make that support request. For some reason my submission was never "Completed", i.e. taken on board by Capture One.
I haven't experimented with layer ordering recently. I'm not even on the latest V21 release as I want to finish some editing before I upgrade.
HDR support does not interest me and I have better means to do panoramas so V22 is not of interest to me (yet).
It is too bad that they cannot replicate the issue you reported. I recently reported an issue as well - the brush cursor size does not immediately update if one presses a keyboard shortcut to change the brush size; one has to press another time or move the cursor to see a size update - but they were not able to replicate it either.
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Class A, I would like to discuss these issues further with you but we are digressing away from the subject of this Feature Request which is probably not desirable.
What's the best way to continue this discussion? Start a new topic in the Forum for "Capture One 21"? Win or Mac? I'm using Windows. Or get in touch on Fb? In one of the C1 groups?
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Yep, absolutely, that's what I said in my submission, to have a global default setting in that you can change in Preferences, plus independent settings in Layers. Red works most of the time but there are definitely situations where you need a different colour, even in different parts of the same image.
Boris, it is good to know you were already on top of this and sent in a submission. It is one of those very basic photo operations that has been in Photoshop since probably version 5.0 located directly in the main tool area. It had this long before there were features like gradient masks and the radial gradient masks. Those are both tools I almost never use but I can see adjusting the opacity on a daily basis. It is intriguing to go beyond Photoshop and have different settings for each layer (or at least that was the way it was on the old version I used. Not sure about how it works now.) I can't believe it takes eight clicks to do this basic everyday task!
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Boris, a forum thread would work well for me. I'm using Windows as well, so please just create a respective thread and post a link to it here.
P.S.: Happy to try and replicate your issue on my version once I find a bit of time.
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One of the reasons I suggested better side by side panel support is if C1 had that small details like the + and - buttons would no longer be a big deal. That is because you could space things out from being crammed in to one sidebar. Having them not float means they automatically would not cover up the photos.
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Kip wrote:
gradient masks and the radial gradient masks. Those are both tools I almost never use but I can see adjusting the opacity on a daily basis. [...] I can't believe it takes eight clicks to do this basic everyday task!
Firstly, this speaks for a customizable icon area in the layers tool. You usually don't use gradient and radial masks, I usually don't use different settings of the layer mask appearance.
Secondly, I count 5 clicks, not 8, to change the opacity.
Third, I am curious in what the type of photos and type of photography that is for which you have to switch color and / or change opacity, on a daily basis, what the photos and the respective layer masks look like, and what the layers do, and how you work with them (do you define super-precise masks, which tool adjustments do you use, do you brush the effect into the image or do you brush the mask onto the image, and why), in order to understand why you have to change the opacity (or color) that often.
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If anyone from the company is reading this I updated my original post to now include individual layer mask settings. I didn't realize someone else already posted something similar as I don't frequent these forums. I hope the clarification in this year's wish list makes it easier to understand.
Last year there were so many features that needed to be added that I had to focus on quantity. I thought detailing the reasons for the remaining features was a better use of my time since having seven items in the list last time meant that I had to be overly brief for the rationalization behind each different thing. So the point isn't really repetition it is just clarification. Well, the layer mask part doesn't need as much clarification as the other two things since feature has been a core aspect of Photoshop since the 1990s with its use self evident across the decades. I detailed that part more to draw a distinction between Photoshop's initial feature set and where the feature could evolve into and it looks like I am on the same page as others here so that is good.
Well I need to do some website work in other forums so I will just leave this here now. I loved the work Phase One did in 2021!
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