Autoselect the correct brush type when selecting a layer
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If you have one of the brushes selected (adjustment, heal or clone), and you select a layer of a certain type, then it would be more than helpful if C1 would automatically switch to the respective brush type automatically.
Likewise, if you have a layer selected, allow a common shortcut (e.g.) B for that purpose, just select the correct brush type depending on the layer selected.
This way, one can start brushing without the cumbersome need to select the correct brush type.
Like with the Eraser brush, it works on all layer types, without the need to chose HealEraser, CloneEraser or AdjustmentEraser, right?
Actually the user already has chosen to heal, clone or adjust, by selecting a certain layer. No need to do this choice twice.
This way you can keep the new functionality that when the user selects a heal brush that C1 jump to the top most heal layer.
If I am not mistaken this merges the old great Universal brush behavior with the new brush type paradigm.
Thanks for considering
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How would you describe the difference between this request and the "Universal Brush" request?
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360011296718-Universal-Brush
My answer to the above question is that I proposed an additional brush type whereas you seem to be suggesting to redefine how the existing brushes operate. Note that your proposal would no longer support the "auto jumping" that currently occurs when one uses a brush on an incompatible layer. As someone obviously thought this is desirable, my proposal suggests to not interfere with that idea, but instead use an additional brush type that operates the way you want (i.e., works on all layers uniformly and never initiates any layer re-selection).
I don't mind which solution is picked, but I think my proposal might have a better chance for adoption since it does not interfere with the new design (it just usefully adds to it).0 -
If you have e.g. the hand cursor, select a non-adjustment layer and then select the adjustment brush (B), does C1 jump to the topmost adjustments layer too? I don't remember this detail from the beta phase and have not yet abandoned 20.0. for serious work.
If so, yes than one would loose the auto jumping for adjustment brushes, if a non-adjustment layer is selected, and yes then chances to be implemented are not better than your idea of a new (or shall I say "retro"? :-) universal brush.
Anyway, not that much noise around this topic in the forum except from a few, so chances are that most don't see the dropped universal brush as a regression or not many have updated and actually worked with 20.1 yet.
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BeO, you wrote: "If you have e.g. the hand cursor, select a non-adjustment layer and then select the adjustment brush (B), does C1 jump to the topmost adjustments layer too?"
Not immediately, but as soon as one starts brushing then, yes, C1 "auto-corrects" the layer selection to the topmost adjustment layer.
I haven't adopted the latest version for my serious editing either, but I installed it on a laptop to play around with it. Not sure whether I'll switch to the new design on my main editing machine. Maybe my C1 update/upgrade journey will not continue if the problem with switching between Eraser brush and positive brushing is not addressed.
"Anyway, not that much noise around this topic in the forum..."
Well, the requests (there are three very much related topics around the new brush design) have received more support than most topics in this forum.
I also suspect that many haven't woken up yet to the downsides. Sadly, there is also the "they must be right" factor, i.e., users that may instinctively feel that they are doing more work than necessary but don't trust themselves enough to ask for a change.
Furthermore, I suspect that the subset of users that were consulted about the new brush design work differently. For instance, if they all use tablets and use the Eraser tip of the stylus, they will never know about how brushing and erasing has become more cumbersome.
Having said that, both David Grover and Paul Steuneberg (Image Alchemist) have recommend to use 'B' and 'E' for the old C1 version to alternate between brushing and erasing, even when using a tablet. I don't understand how David Grover, for instance, just accepts that he now has to switch between 'B' and 'E', or 'Q' and 'E', or 'S' and 'E'. Doesn't make one bit of sense to me, if a better solution is so easy to find and implement.0 -
Thanks Class A.
Btw, I have 'B' and 'N' for the still existing until 20.0 great and famous universal Brush and the Eraser, partly because N is next to Mr. "M" The Red Mask, and Mr. "M" The Red Mask cannot be change his "first name" (M) in the Windows version.
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Hi there,
Thank you for the comments and suggestions on the topic.
Your request on the workflow improvement when using Layers has been forwarded to the Product Management team.
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This has been partially been implemented in 13.1.1 and initially I was very excited but a major problem remains:
The part "Likewise, if you have a layer selected, allow a common shortcut (e.g.) B for that purpose, just select the correct brush type depending on the layer selected." was not implemented which makes the much welcome brush auto-selection only half a success.
The problem is that switching back and forth between the Eraser brush and the normal brushing now still requires picking the right brush type (keyboard shortcuts B, S, or Q) to go back to regular brushing. Otherwise, if one chooses the wrong keyboard shortcut, the automated layer re-selection still kicks in.
So close, but still not there. :( I have created a new feature request.
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