Keystone tool needs a serious update.
Implemented
I made a little test the other day, trying to correct files with the keystone tool in CaptureOne vs. Lightroom. The result is very sad. What takes literally seconds in Lightroom takes much, much more time in CaptureOne, often requires multiple adjustment. And I'm not talking about the auto function, but the guided one.
1. Please give us independent vertical and horizontal adjustment points.
2. The option to have the correction not at 80% but 100%.
3. At least to have an option to use the loupe with the adjustment points, like in Lightroom.
4. Let us define how many lines we use. For example sometimes we only need 3, that's six adjustment points.
This tool needs a serious update.
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Keystone Tool needs completely new from scratch.. There are number is requests over 5-6 years. Unfortunately C1 is not listening and not even willing to talk about it.
Refer under "Community" column...
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&topic=360000154057&query=keystone
Below are few recent requests..
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360014158198-A-new-keystone-tool
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Hi Tamas,
Thank you for the suggestions provided.
Please see the updates and improvements coming in future versions of Capture One - https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012248397-The-history-of-tools-and-features-added-to-Capture-One
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Thank you Lily,
Your responses are always greatly appreciated but that article does not show anything that is coming. It only shows what has already been added (ie history).
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Hallo Lily
First of all, thank you for taking you time here in the Forum.
I totally agree with what Tomas said.
As an Architect Photograph I would really appreciate an update of the Keystone tool.
I think Tomas already covered all the ponits that needs a Fix.
Thank you all very much for the hard work and wish you all a nice evening.
Best regards
Manuel B.3 -
P.s. why there is a “completed” tag on this topic?
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I made multiple requests about an update for this tool as well. So far nothing changed… and reading the changelog of the current beta version nearly makes me cry.
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I've made a summary of feature requests for a new keystone tool here (also mentioned above).
Capture One, you need to do something about this. You've known about the malfunctioning of the keystone tool most likely for years, and yet nothing has happened. It appears to be at least ten years since any changes were made to the keystone tool, so it's about time – and not just for minor cosmetic changes.
@Lily – The page you refer to says nothing about updates to the keystone tool.
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Yeah I don’t think they realize it’s not just for straightening landscapes or something. I photograph artworks and have to keystone adjust literally every photo I do. I cancelled my capture one subscription a couple mo the ago because of lack of movement on this issue - along with still not supporting Sony ARQ files. I’ve gone back to Adobe and am looking into Rawthwrapee which honestly seems to have better everything than capture one and is made by volunteers for free.
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Same here, I stopped paying until I see improvement. I understand that they might have tons of feature requests, but this tool is nearly 10 years old without serious update? I can't believe this oversight from a professional company. I know many fellow photographers who refused to jump to C1 because of this and the general lack of direct communication of what we can see in the future versions. I know that they won't, and should not release a complete plan, but posting the updates and improvements that already happened is no help for us.
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Exactly. For my use case the four-point keystone should be fine - I'm just drawing a box around a picture frame so I use four point correction anyway - but the algorithm they use to do the correction is broken... its not even a feature request, its a major bug.
CaptureOne presents itself as being the choice for real professionals - and I will say its color options are better than Adobe (though they are catching up) - but its not for professionals that need to make sure something in their photo is at a 90 degree angle. May be fine for portrait photographers, but for my specialty of photographing artworks its useless. You would think with Phase One cameras being a standard in my industry they would make this a priority. Of course, Sony is hot on Phase One's heels there too.
As a side note - it also drives me crazy how they mark things in the forum as "completed" when it really means the problem has just been reported to the dev team and not that the problem has been fixed.
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"the algorithm they use to do the correction is broken... its not even a feature request, its a major bug"
As Capture One's keystone correction is somehow dependent on the camera data, it may be the case that it works with their own cameras, I'm not sure; if it does, this may to some extent explain their lack of interest in fixing it (not that this makes it more acceptable).
Considering 1) the 80% default amount of vertical keystone correction and 2) the low priority this issue has been given, you get the impression that the company has a limited understanding of what people actually do with a tool of this sort and how important it is for some users.
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The visibility of the lines and adjustment points has been improved in the latest update. But that's all.
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That's a small step. :) I'm still waiting, not upgrading until Insee real improvement.
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It is indeed a small step, just about the smallest step imaginable.
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Sorry but I don’t see any improvement here. Those heavy fat lines are unuseful and the tool is still broken. Looks like more a (failed) cosmetic fix.
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@Leo FABRIZIO
An option to change the colour of the lines would indeed have been more useful. The new, fat lines are easier to see, but they're not doing much for precision.
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