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How to use AI Masking

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  • William McKee

    The focus of the AI masking Webinar yesterday was on single people images and their features.

    How is it best used to pick up specific non-people areas in ordinary photos  - eg Nature or Landscape (Paul Reiffer type photos), multi-person photos or lastly architecture.

    Thanks.

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  • David Grover
    Moderator

    William McKee. No problem - we can certainly do that!

     

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  • Stephen Hopkirk

    There was an AI webinar on people yesterday? 

    If you have not already covered it David any help with masking Hair would be really appreciated, in a way that avoids Helmet hair if you know what I mean? 

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  • David Grover
    Moderator

    Stephen Hopkirk There was no webinar, but a recording of a studio session we did - https://youtu.be/_em7VEeUcFA?feature=shared

    Sure we can look at some hair examples too.

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  • William McKee

    David

    Having a play with 16.3.0.76 - masking is awesome; Webinar yesterday was very helpful to get up and running.

    Issues that have come up solar:

    1- In an image of a car with two headlight I wanted to create a mask for both the headlights only,  but I am not sure how to do that - so the principle of two or more separate areas in the one mask is the issue - not sure how to do it with the subject/background/draw surround box/AL brush / AI Eraser tools. Could you cover this next week on Nov 2nd please?

    2 - If I open an image in jpg and raw, C1 generate quite different masks (actually jpeg was better) if you apply subject and background. Any idea why? One for next week again maybe? (I can send files if needed)

    3 - Instalationl - I was confused by the renaming from Capture One 23 to Capture One only, and I assumed I had not installed correctly. I don't recall this being flagged up in the BTS session or the Webinar yesterday. Another one for next week maybe to alert folk to?

    Billy McKee

    UK

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  • Miguel Lecuona

    Just upgraded to 16.3 from 15.4.3.4 and am loving the new options.  Looking at pictures from last year I would like to improve on a few... When working on portraits - specifically skin textures, sun-damaged skin, blemishes, artistic bridal portraits, or just normal aged skin, face, neck for fashion portraits or 65+ "vanity portraits" for clients who request it - which tools are useful and how to use tools and AI Mask to apply without losing clarity on eyes, lashes, hair, etc.

     

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  • James Farrell

    AI Masking is awesome. Well done to the CP team.

    Question: RE an AI generated mask for both a subject and a background ... if I 'refine' the subject mask (e.g., animal, people hair/fur etc.) is the "Refine Mask" setting effect created for one of the AI layer masks the same for the other mask? I know the Refine Mask actual setting will be the same for the other layer mask, but are the image adjustment effects for each of those two separate layers 'handled' the same?  

    An example of what I am referring to would be something like a bear or similar animal with fur, etc. standing in some grass, weeds or similar. In other words, separating the two when they are both adjacent to each and in focus.  

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  • David Grover
    Moderator

    William McKee

    1.  Remember adding masks to a a Layer is additive.  Wether thats doing it manually or via an AI brush it makes no difference.  Therefore, with car head lights, you could make a new layer, zoom into one headlight and mask it, pan over to the other headlight, then mask that one.

    2. Lack of RAW data will always cause a different assumption on masking.  Could be you got lucky with the JPEGS!  I will see if I can find out more.

    3. Yes, an unrealised consequence of renaming the application.  Sorry we missed that one.

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  • David Grover
    Moderator

    James Farrell

    A refining action will only affect the selected mask, just like as before with a manually created mask.  Does that answer your question?   That refine setting won't "stick" for future masks that you create.

     

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  • Peter Walsh

    I'm particularly interested in masking in landscape photography. Most of the tools seemed aimed at either portraiture or large, clearly defined, blocky, single colour  areas and seem to struggle with more subtle landscape elements.

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  • David Grover
    Moderator

    Peter Walsh. I hope you watched yesterday Peter (or the recording) to see that is not the case.

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