Capture One and lack of support for new cameras
Hello, I am here as a user of capture one for many years. I have always purchased a single license up to and including Capture One 22. I have use it as a library and initial processor much like Lightroom. I was not impressed by CO23 and after a very short time reverted back to CO2. A few weeks ago I purchase a Sony A7r5 camera and was so excited to run my images thru CO only to find out that my camera is not recognized and won’t be. I have never been impressed by the added features that CO introduced into their software as I use another product that I find much superior and easier to use. So the result is that I was using the photoshop experience and was very excited when I found Capture One. I switched very quickly and until now have been very excited to shell out the money to have a CO license. Unfortunately as my favorite software for doing all the amazing things doesn’t have a library system, so to end my comment “I need to go back to Lightroom. Not a great comment for Capture One but as I stated above, I stopped being happy with Capture One when version 22 was introduced and have and literally didn’t use it.
So I would like to know if Capture One is going to allow their users to upgrade to awesome cameras and be able to process the images in older versions.
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Hi Patricia Austin, support for Sony a7R V was introduced in Capture One 23 16.0.1 as per this article on Camera models and RAW files supported by Capture One.
And as John Friend mentioned above, it's highly unlikely that we'll start adding camera support to older releases.
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I already bought the license in March 2023
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but if i already buy a perpetual license for CO22 I would have to buy a new license for CO23?
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If you buy a new camera and it is supported only in CO23 or CO16 then yes you have to buy an upgrade or subscription to get support for that camera. This has always been the case with Capture One. They have never provided multiple version backward support for new cameras.
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Hi, I have Captuer One 20 (13.1.4.15) for Sony, perpetual license. Although C1 is my favorite piece of software to work with RAWs I honestly do not like the fact that they will not provide an update for processing RAWs of newer cameras. Lens profiles - OK, I don't ask for that, but RAW support? I am happy to pay for new features if I need and like them, but since I am happy with the state of version 20 functionality I wanted to keep working on that. For A7III and A7RIII there was no problem, but it was so strange when I could not load A7RIIIa RAWs. And it's really just A7RIII with better screen that Sony made for whatever reason, yet its RAW files will not work in v20. Now I have A7IV, of course obviously RAWs are not recognizable, but thankfully free Adobe DNG converter will convert ARW to DNG nad C1 v20 allows to work on these files. Additional step but works. Not sure what about A7RV though. Take care.
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You are missing out on many great features in the latest Capture One. You should get a trial copy and see for yourself.
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@... Thanks for that explanation. Yeah, I may have sounded like a frustrated snowflake, apologies. Anyway my point was that if someone has version X of C1 that does not get updates anymore then the free Adobe DNG converter may be the way to go before deciding on updating for newer C1 version or switching to subscription plan. Best wishes.
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Based on how Capture One handles derivative DNG files compared to the camera native original I think the price of upgrading is worth it. Camera Native raw files process better in Capture One, especially given that Capture One has profiled the camera. Using DNG derivatives means you are not using a version of the software that has a profile tailored to that specific model. The release notes state that derivative DNG files may not produce the best results.
From the 16.3.8 release notes:
- Capture One DNG colors: DNG files from camera models with native support in Capture One will per default have their native Capture One colors applied. DNG files from camera models that are not natively supported in Capture One will have generic DNG Standard colors applied. Adjustments and settings from other applications embedded in DNG files are not supported.
If your version of CO does not natively support a newer camera, Capture One will not apply their camera native profile for that camera. Instead you will get a generic DNG profile applied. The quality will be less than it could be with a camera native profile applied.
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The decision not to backport new camera support to older versions (at least one version back) is not a good one. People are using exiftool to change the EXIF data in RAW files and processing the files anyway. Or they're converting to DNG first and then use C1 to edit DNG. It's extremely frustrating for many customers to not be able to use C1 that was purchased 6 month ago with their new camera as intended. The "perpetual" license in EU costs €350 if I'm not mistaken. This is almost 3 years of LR subscription costs.
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