Add Rendering Intent, Black Point Compensation and Paper White Simulation to export recipes for softproofing

BeO

• November 16, 2023 14:53

What problem do you see this solving?
Rendering intent, black point compensation, simulation of paper white should be part of the recipe proofing because they are needed for certain printer/paper icc profiles from my printing service.

My printing service Saal-Digital.com is explicitly discouraging its customers from using C1 for softproofing, because the softproof function is missing black point compensation and simulation of paper white, as is recommended for some of their (very popular) papers. 

Only rendering intent can be set but only in the preferences, which is no allowing me to compare different papers by switching if the intent differs.

Here is the link 
https://www.saal-digital.com/service/professional-zone/soft-proof-in-lightroom-photoshop-and-other-programs/

Here is one paper (Hahnemuehle Photo RAG) where BPC is recommended:
https://www.saal-digital.com/service/professional-zone/hahnemuehle-fineart-photo-ragr/

Here is one paper (Fujifilm Crystal Archive DP II Professional Matte) where BPC and paper white (paper "color") simulation is recommended:
https://www.saal-digital.com/service/professional-zone/fujifilm-crystal-archive-dp-ii-professional-matte/

 

When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool?
This issue concerns me frequently whenever I print my images, as I usually do not use PS or alike and I want to do my color editing in C1 completely.

Are you using any workarounds or other solutions to achieve your goals in Capture One?
In C1 is to set rendering intent in preferences for every paper I want to softproof (provided it has a different rendering intent), wasting time and my memory of the image proofed with the previous recipe is already gone (no A/B comparison between papers with different intent can be done), and just live without BPC and paper white simulation.
Or I use another application which can do the proof, but then I am already out of  of C1 and cannot adjust contrast and colors in C1.

Are you happy to be contacted further about this suggestion or request?
Yes.

 

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  Peter Levin Schuster

  • November 17, 2023 10:01
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  Dear BeO,

  thanks so lot for rephrasing and replacing my original post. Your post exactly reflects my intention for an improvement in a clear and easily understandable way. 
  
  ps: After changing my email adress, a new user was created (Peter Levin Schuster), the original user was deleted. (Peter Schuster)

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  BeO

  • November 18, 2023 05:02

  

  You're very welcome Peter.

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  Peter Levin Schuster

  • November 19, 2023 08:59

  BeO
  
  I found a notification of your post in my spam folder. (Too many links?)
  Question: How can I "upvote" a post?

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  BeO

  • November 19, 2023 10:54
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  Hi Peter Levin Schuster

  Possible.

  Voting can be done with the small arrows top right of my first post, currently 7 votes:

  

   

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  Peter Levin Schuster

  • November 19, 2023 10:58
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  Thanks, done.

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  fractr

  • December 10, 2023 12:25

  I also print with SAAL Digital and I do not want to buy Photoshop only for printing. Otherwise, I would use just Photoshop......

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  Walter Rowe

  Moderator

  • December 10, 2023 13:07

  

  Capture One is always softproofing based on View > Proof Profile setting. App Preference includes Rendering Intent.

  Black Point Compensation and White Paper Simulation also would be valuable.

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  Ken Crook

  • February 01, 2024 22:37

  I agree that Soft Proofing needs looking at  and expanding. If you are to add ( as Photoshop has)  paper simulation , this seems to use a milky haze to simulate the change from a 1000:1  arena  down to 200:1 paper contrast simulation. I personally would request that this is on a check box in the tool area so I could disable it.  I work on a very colour accurate Eizo  279X monitor and have profiles created to display a 200:1 contrast ratio specifically for print simulation.  So when I print I select the " Print " profile on the monitor and this allows me to view without the milky haze most simulations use.  Secondly the best way to prepare an image for print is to use two copies side by side on the screen and have the icc profile simulation ONLY showing on one !   This way the standard Adobe aRGB  or Profoto  profile is displayed on the second image. Now you can alter the proofed version with curves or other tools to overcome any contrast or colour changes comparing with the non proofed version.    Again when looking at rendering intent you can quickly see which version matches you post processed version best. 

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