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Crop bug

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  • Walter Rowe
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    The crop tool is only setting an aspect ratio and determining what is kept in or cropped out. The export recipe defines the actual output size. The pixel dimensions you are seeing may reflect the currently selected export recipe. Look at the setting for the Crop tool. It may say Selected Recipe or Output or something to that effect.

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  • Oleksii

    Что означает красное значение в Crop?
    Настроек для этого инструмента не так много.
    Все сбрасывается по умолчанию.
    Я даже удалил программу, все почистил, переустановил и добавил фотографии в новый каталог.
    Ничего не работает. Все фотографии имеют совершенно иное разрешение, чем то, с которым предлагает работать Кроп. То есть картинка есть, скажем, 3000 по вертикали, но при полной съемке показывает 1500, 4000 по горизонтали, а она показывает 2160.
    Да, и возможность менять пиксели на другие единицы измерения, дюймы, сантиметры, тоже исчезла.
    Как будто я заблокировал какую-то настройку.

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  • Walter Rowe
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    In the crop tool what is selected as the aspect ratio?

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  • Oleksii

    I switched all possible Ratio options. None of them change anything. As before, one of the values is red, the other does not rise above 2160, no matter what you do. Latest version of the program

    this is very strange, I don’t seem to be completely stupid, but I don’t find what the problem is

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  • John Friend
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    When you exported, did you overwrite the originals or export to a new location?  Are you absolutely sure you're looking at the originals in Capture One, not the exported versions?

    Go to the Library Tab in Capture One.  Find the MetaData section (for my configuration, it's on the left side of the screen, but this is configurable).  Expand the "MetaData" section.  Then expnad the "Basic" section.  Then, look at what it says for "Dimensions".  This should show the actual pixels in the image.

    Also, you can note the filename of the file you are looking at in Capture One and then go look at it in your file system to see exactly how many pixels the image contains.

    In Windows, you can right-click on the original image in Windows Explorer and select properties and go to the Details tab and you can see exactly how many pixels are in the original.  You can do something similar on Mac.  This will tell you if the file on disk has the right number of pixels or not?

    And, in Capture One, you can go to the Adjustments menu and select "Reset Crop" to get rid of any existing crop.

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  • Oleksii

    Я экспортировал файл в новое место. И экспортировал его с разрешением 2160*1530.
    Теперь, после переустановки программы, я добавил в нее каталог с фотографиями, которые она еще даже не видела, с цифрового фотоаппарата 6000*4000.
    Но кроп похоже запомнил значения 2160*3030 и пытается выдать мне именно такие прямоугольные. Когда значения отклоняются от них, они становятся красными, и кажется, что обратный отсчет идет в другом направлении.
    То есть смотрите, есть фото 6000 по горизонтали. До 3030 значения нормальные, но если обрезать до края картинки, то получится 1430 красным цветом

    Я не понимаю, что это такое и как от этого избавиться

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  • Walter Rowe
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    Can you share screen shots of the crop tool settings and your export settings?

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  • Oleksii

    Yes

    Files not uploading, external link:

    C1_Share — Yandex Disk

     

     

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  • Walter Rowe
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    Thanks. Can you add screenshots showing your selected export recipe? It might be that the selected export recipe is affected this.

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  • Oleksii

    I understand. I switched to JPEG full size in the Export menu and everything was fixed. Thank you.
    But I don’t really understand why positioning on one of the export recipes changes the processing capabilities. In my understanding, export and its presets are the final story

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  • Oleksii

    Since I'm here, I'll ask. Why import files into C1 at all? After all, this takes up an additional 15% of the size of the originals, as I see it.
    I need to work with 1.5 TB of personal photos, process, sort. Do I need to import them all? Is there a way to make the database smaller?

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  • Walter Rowe
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    The database itself is small. The vast majority of the space consumed by catalogs is previews and thumbnails. In the attached screenshot you can see my 66K images catalog (4K previews) consumes 137GB. The database itself is 614MB. The Cache (thumbnails, previews) is 133GB. There is another folder called Adjustments (not shown here) that takes 3GB and contains layer masks.

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  • John Friend
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    The database is used to keep track of the photos, keywords, adjustments, masks, previews and metadata to browse efficiently, allow you to search and create virtual collections based on queries.  If you want to edit your images one at a time without any organizational capabilities other than the file system, you can use either Photoshop or Affinity Photo to just open an individual file, edit it, save it to a TIFF or JPEG and then go to the next photo.

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  • Walter Rowe
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    John Friend .. converting files to RGB using PS or AP could in the end consume more space than a catalog (assuming space is the primary concern which has been expressed).

    I keep my catalog on internal SSD and referenced images on external 4TB SSD.

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  • John Friend
    Top Commenter

    Yeah, it might take as much or more space, depending upon how many of your images you edit and save. The main point is that that's the alternative.

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  • Oleksii

    Спасибо. Возможен ли импорт без создания превью (или, по крайней мере, таких больших превью)? В принципе, могу ли я использовать C1 для точечного редактирования через файловую систему?
    Я не согласен с базой данных в 100-200 ГБ, но в разумных пределах для каталогизации, да.

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