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  • John Friend
    Top Commenter

    Since you titled your post hard drive full, I would assume that is your primary objective here (dealing with that).

    Hard drive capacity is fairly inexpensive per TB these days so my first question would be to ask about your ability to upgrade your hard drive to a bigger drive?  How big is the current drive?  Is it an SSD?  Is it an NVME drive?  What type of system is the drive in and can the internal drive be upgraded?  I find that constantly having to clean up things, empty caches, etc... just to get enough disk space to work is a very unproductive use of my time so I'd rather make one hardware decision to get myself plenty of space for the next several years.

    There are people who work off external drives, but unless you have just the right hardware for really fast access to the external drive, that is usually a significant hit to performance which is not something I like to sacrifice.

    Single catalog or multiple catalogs really depends upon your content.  It won't help your total storage requirements so I wouldn't think that would be driven by storage, but rather by content.  If you have different types of photography that are just completely different and have nothing to do with one another like say pro work and personal work, then keeping those separate in different catalogs (or sessions) makes some sense.  But, if it's just all different subjects of amateur photography, then I find great benefit to having everything in one catalog.

    You also have the choice of putting the images "inside" the catalog when you import them or putting them in your own folder hierarchy (that you design) and have the catalog "reference" them form there.  I choose the latter (referenced images) and I use a folder design that is structured by year/shoot-date-event-name.  That allows me to find anything by date, whether inside of Capture One or not in Capture One.  And, it makes it easier for me to backup the images separate from the catalogs.

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  • Northbankboy

    I think this problem goes with the territory, particularly if like me you also need to generate tif files to edit in Silvrreffex Pro. One file can hit 250mb! Anyway, I work in Capture One on files held in a 4 x 1tb NAS drive. I do not notice any hit on performance. My processor is fairly new and the PC has 16gb RAM. That said, I can see the day when I will need to acquire a new NAS drive. The drive is configured RAID 5 meaning that if one disk should fail I can swap it out for a new one and the database will rebuild itself over the following 24 hrs. This has occurred once in the 9 yrs I've had the drive. Prices of NAS drives are quite reasonable I think. Cheers

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  • Ian Wilson
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    Hi FirstName LastName

    You don't say whether you are using a catalog (or catalogs) or sessions. Either way you are likely to need an external drive to your system. Buy a bigger one than you think you need!

    Catalog

    If you are using a catalog and the images are stored outside the catalog in folders on your computer, you can move folders of images to the external drive.

    • Create a folder on the external drive
    • Add that folder to the Capture One catalog
    • In the Library tool of Capture One, drag folders of images from their current location into the folder you just added. You MUST do this using the Library tool - don't do it outside of Capture One using Finder or File Explorer, or Capture One won't know where the images have gone.

    (If the images are stored inside the catalog (in the In Catalog section of the Library tool) you can still move them to the external drive - create a folder as before then drag them from the In Catalog section to the external drive. You may want to create and add some subfolders on the external drive and then add them to the catalog before you move the images.)

    Sessions

    If you are using sessions just move them to your external drive using Finder or File Explorer. Move the whole session folder with all its subfolders. The first time you open a session after you have moved it, you'll have to do it from the File menu in Capture One because the recent files list won't know where it is. (File>Open... then navigate to the session file.)

    Whichever it is you are doing, try this on a small number of images first to be sure that you know what you are doing.

    Ian

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  • FirstName LastName

    ok so it's the Originals that a clogging everything up. I've done a little more reading about sessions vs catalog and will be using more sessions. Will there be any issues if I move "originals" to a 4tb SSD external drive? Will it work slower? or be just fine?

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  • Walter Rowe
    Moderator
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    Size of drive should not affect speed. Type of drive (eg SSD vs HDD) and speed of connection (eg Thunderbolt vs USB-A) affect performance. There are different speeds of SSD so make sure you read the details.

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  • Ian Wilson
    Moderator
    Top Commenter

    If it's the "Originals" folder that's filling up your drive space, that implies to me that your images are stored "IN Catalog". That is, they are "managed" images not "referenced" images. The Originals folder is where Capture One stores the raw files that are "In Catalog" and it is part of the internal workings of the catalog. DO NOT MESS WITH IT by trying to move the Originals folder somewhere else. You should regard the catalog as having no user-serviceable parts inside it, and you don't want to break it.

    If you want to reduce the size of the Originals folder, the thing to do is to move images out of the "In Catalog" section of the Library into a location somewhere else. So you could 

    • create a folder on your external 4TB drive
    • add that folder to the catalog
    • drag and drop images from the In Catalog section to the folder you have just added.

    Actually, with a lot of images, you probably need to add several folders in an arrangement that suits how you want to organise your images. Add them all to the catalog, then drag and drop to your hero's content. As you do that, Capture One will look after the process of moving the images out of the Originals folder and onto your external drive. You MUST DO THE MOVING IN THE CAPTURE ONE LIBRARY TOOL not using Finder/File Explorer so that Capture One not only moves the files for you but also keeps track of where they are so that your edits are not lost.

    It is perfectly possible to have some images "In Catalog", some on your internal drive, and some on your external drive. The catalog can cope with keeping track of images in several different places. In particular that means that you don't have to move all the images at once, and you can therefore take your time to organise things as you want. Also you can try out the process with just a few images first, to make sure you know what you are doing.

    (The alternative to what I have suggested is to move the whole catalog to the external drive, but I don't recommend it. Catalogs run much better with the catalog database itself on the internal drive.) 

    Ian

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  • FirstName LastName

    This solved the issue and gave me a better understanding of the program. Thank you SO much for your responses. I appreciate it! 

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