How go get XMP-files in a separate folder?
Hi all,
I am new to C1 and experimenting with all the features. It seems when I create a session - I can point C1 to a specific folder of photos on my local drive. This folder only contains jpgs before pointing C1 to it. After pointing C1 to it - through a session - I understand that separate XMP-files will be generated for each JPG. What I want to know is whether it is possible to move these XMP-files to a separate folder.
For instance - I point to C1 to the folder "Paris" where the JPGs are. I understand it is expected behavior that then for each JPG in the "Paris"-folder an XMP-file will be created (as I understand that C1 does not edit the source file and all goes through the XMP). However, it looks very messy in the "Paris"-folder now that every JPG is mixed with an XMP.
I'd like to have the overview in the "Paris"-folder clean and only have it contained the JPGs. The XMPs would preferably be living in another folder.
Am I understanding correctly how C1 works - and if so, is my request possible?
Many thanks!
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Capture One should create a folder called "CaptureOne" in each folder you view via the session. That folder should have previews, thumbnails, and a settings folder that has the XMP files and adjustment files.
Your Paris folder should have a folder inside called "CaptureOne". Open it and explore it.
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Do you realize that you don't need to configure Capture One to create XMP files? You can turn that off in the preferences and Capture One will just keep the edits and other changes in it's local database. You won't lose any editing features and the directory with the JPEGs won't have all those XMP files in it.
Also, if you change your username in Capture One to be something unique to you (something other than First Name Last Name), then we can address replies directly to you. With the generic name you have now, we can't do that so maybe you will or won't see our replies to you.
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Many thanks for your response.
I currently have set in settings the Auto Sync Sidecar to "Full Sync" as I understand that this is the most versatile while also working/viewing the photos in other applications.
This is the folder before I created a session pointing to the folder:
Then I create Session where I open the pictures from the "Paris"-folder in the Session. Now it looks like this:
for every JPG, an XMP is also created. However - it is in the same hierarchy and not in another folder, making it the overview messy.
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Thank you for your comment (and also for your comment re. the name. I didn't realize I had a standard-template as name at the moment).
If I do not create XMP-files - will other applications be able to read the edits? If so - what is then the biggest advantage of XMP-files?
I am asking because I want to create the following workflow:
1. import pictures from my Fujifilm camera to my PC.
2. Create a folder on my Synology-NAS (which I just purchased) where I will store the photos.
3. Edit the photos (mainly applying keywords etc. at the moment) in Capture 1 through a Session which goes through the photos in the Synology-folder.
4. Have Synology Photos "read" the edits and display these as well in it's Synology Photos application.
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I started with the point of view that - to be able to do this - I would need to edit the photos in C1 and then export these to Synology Photos. But now I am looking whether it is possible to have it both ways, namely use C1 and Synology in conjunction where (i) edits will be done in C1, and (ii) photos will be displayed in Synology Photos.
My biggest worry is that if I should ever migrate from C1 to another platform or if somehow the C1-database gets corrupted, that all my edits will be gone and not be viewable in Synology Photos (which I chosen as my long term storage). Therefore - exporting after editing felt safe because then it is embedded in the photo and thus won't get lost.
My apologies if this is all very basic or confusing questions - but I am a beginner and I am trying to set up a good workflow as I think this is essential before starting a significant database.
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It seems you have metadata syncing enabled. Turn that off in app preferences. Capture One does not store adjustments in the XMP files. It only stores metadata there.
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Aad Handgranaat - OK, to answer your original question, I don't know of any way to control where the XMP files go. I think they must go right next to the original if you have enabled them.
Just to be absolutely clear here, XMP files are used for metadata modifications (which it sounds like you are interested in). They are not used for image edits and, even if they were, other programs wouldn't know how to read them as image edits are largely proprietary.
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If you want full sync, the .XMP files will go next to the image files, and that is where other apps would look for them. But as has been pointed out to you
- you don't have to use .XMP files at all. In fact, Full Sync can be a terrible slow-downer of Capture One. If you do want to use .XMP files, it's better to get it to sync when you want it to, and not constantly.
- in Capture One, edit information isn't stored in the .XMP files if you use them anyway - as Walter Rowe says, edit information (in a session) is stored in the a subfolder of the Capture One folder, and in files it labels as .COS, not .XMP. (Catalogs also use .COS files, but they are stored inside the catalog database.)
- Also, in general, there would be no point in Capture One storing edit information in .XMP files. Most adjustments are mostly not transferable from one app to another. While an exposure adjustment of +1EV is the same in any app's scheme of things, most things are different. Just to give a few examples, Capture One has a Brightness slider, and a Levels tool, and Lightroom doesn't have either of those; Clarity, Structure and Dehaze in Capture One aren't necessarily exact equivalents of Clarity, Texture and Dehaze in Lightroom; and the apps handle local adjustments in completely different ways.
Ian
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Many thanks! So for my use case - I understand correctly that it is best to turn full sync off- and after editing the photos and attaching metadata to it - export to Synology Photos - as otherwise the adjustments won't be recognized by Synology. Metadata would be recognized - but will also be recognized because after the export it is baked into the photo itself.
The result is that I have the final photos into Synology, and should I want to refer back to the originals and make other edits, these still live in Capture One.
The only disadvantage is that I have two sets of photos - the export photos and the originals. But I can live with that as I have a NAS with sufficient storage.
I hope I understand this correctly!
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Aad Handgranaat .. I do something similar .. all edits are in a primary Capture One catalog, and all finals are exported to a separate "Archive" folder in two sizes (FULL resolution, 3000px long edge resolution). The downsized 3000px files are loaded into Apple Photos so I have them on all my devices via Apple Photos Cloud Library.
Ian Wilson .. Catalogs don't have ".COS" files but yet they have all the info. The database uses many different tables to store variants, adjustments, layers, keywords, user collections, etc.
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Walter Rowe - I stand corrected. I thought they were in the Adjustments folder you see if you view the package contents, but it turns out that that is only the .comask files.
Ian
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