Managing Variants

Jakob Lehner

• December 30, 2015 19:45

Question:
How to move a variant of a photo to another album without copying all the other variants along with the original image as well?

I do a lot of Headshots and provide my clients mostly with 3 different crops of one image. When I have my final images and do the 2 other variants I want to organize them in different locations/albums like an place where all the tight cropped images are a place where all the original crop is and so on. In LR I used for this the collections where I had 3 different folders for each cropping variant/virtual copy of the image.

Is this possible somehow? Because like now I copy an variant and have to delete all the other variants each time which gets a little bit cumbersome.

(I'm on a Mac Using Capture One 9)

Thank you!

PS: Best case would be to select some images and copy new variants to a new album or something, I wonder if this is possible.

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  Ian Wilson

  Moderator

  • December 31, 2015 10:11

  

  You can't put one variant in one folder (such as Captures) and another in a different folder (such as Selects) because the folders are physical locations (different folders on the OS) and the raw file that the variants are attached to only resides in one place. But I find that I can have variants in more than one smart album. So I have a shot I took the other day and I have three different variants because I was playing with the white balance using local adjustments, to cope with the mixed lighting. I find that I can give say 5 stars to one of the variants without changing the star rating of the others. That variant then appears in the 5-star smart album (but the other two don't). However, if I create an ordinary album then drag the one variant to it, they all move.
  
  So perhaps you could use smart albums based on something like colour tags. If you gave say a green tag to shots you wanted to segregate, you could create a smart album for green-tagged variants.
  
  (I'm using sessions not catalogs, but I don't know if that makes a difference. I've never used catalogs.)
  
  Does that help?
  
  Ian

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  SFA

  • December 31, 2015 11:26

  To add a little to Ian' s description.
  
  All the basic edit variations for an original file are contained in the same edits definitions file. (I'm not sure about masks in that respect since masks have a separate file. Likewise difference ICC profiles, if used, may complicate things if "separation" is being considered).
  
  Smart albums seem to make the most sense for grouping. One might use keywords for example as a very flexible grouping selection tool.
  
  The IPTC metadata fields are also available albeit for maximum flexibility you might be looking at using one or two that are probably intended for other purposes in the original specifications!
  
  
  HTH.
  
  
  Grant

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  Jakob Lehner

  • January 02, 2016 09:20

  Thanks for all the replies.
  The thing I do currently is using smart albums with color tags, certainly not the best but it works.
  
  Thanks a lot!

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  SFA

  • January 02, 2016 14:02

  As an alternative - if you produce the output files anyway - you can batch the output process naming each file type and size as part of the recipe and collecting them into discrete folders.
  
  Once processed and in folders they are accessible without any need to open C1 unless you wish to change something.
  
  Personally I think naming a file is a far more robust approach than using colour tags, ratings or most other options.
  
  
  HTH.
  
  
  Grant

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