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Copying adjustments without layers

Jason de Plater
Hi All,

I'm a wedding photographer transitioning from Lightroom to Capture One 20. I want to copy the checked adjustments only on the adjustments clipboard but I have found an annoying problem. Unfortunately after unchecking layers, it keeps rechecking itself to be copied. Since I'm editing a wedding, the only time I use layers is to remove skin blemishes with a heal layer which means I never want the layers copied.

How I ensure the layers checkbox in adjustments clipboard does not keep re checking itself?
I'm keen to find a workaround because if I'm working on 1,000 photos in a set, this is going to be tiresome very quickly.

Thanks.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    There is no specific setting to exclude layers while copying adjustments to the clipboard. The default setting for this behavior is in the clipboard's action (context) menu with the three dots: AutoSelect > Adjusted.

    You can disable this, but then no adjustments are selected by default.

    Another route is that you use the double arrow icons on each tool to copy/apply only the adjustments for that tool.
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  • SFA
    jdeplater wrote:
    Hi All,

    I'm a wedding photographer transitioning from Lightroom to Capture One 20. I want to copy the checked adjustments only on the adjustments clipboard but I have found an annoying problem. Unfortunately after unchecking layers, it keeps rechecking itself to be copied. Since I'm editing a wedding, the only time I use layers is to remove skin blemishes with a heal layer which means I never want the layers copied.

    How I ensure the layers checkbox in adjustments clipboard does not keep re checking itself?
    I'm keen to find a workaround because if I'm working on 1,000 photos in a set, this is going to be tiresome very quickly.

    Thanks.


    This is an interesting point but maybe one that is not so simple to define as an "include/exclude" option for the entire tool.

    I don't shoot weddings but I do shoot events where by certain adjustments are specific to an image and applied via layer(s). So I copy and paste, sometimes, for a sequence of images just as you do.

    Now the things is that whilst my specific 'blemish' corrections, like yours, are rarely appropriate from one image to the next, the set of tool adjustments may be correct or very near to correct for the next image. If not I can just turn off the layer or delete it depending on what I expect to do next.

    If the corrections are valid but the masking/copying positions wrong then I can re-use the layer settings and re-mask.

    If both are wrong then I can decide whether to re-work the settings that are there or simply delete the layer and recreate.

    Obviously this is not the whole story - which implies that any "default" rules about how to copy and paste anything could quickly become extraordinary complex and potentially very confusing with a number of possible conflicts.

    If you are using a Mac you may have some options using Apple Script - perhaps use copy as it is and then have the script delete or deactivate the layers?


    Grant
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  • BeO
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    I am grateful to have the option now to copy layers. I work as you have proposed, Grant. If only I could see more easily which tools I have changed in a selected layer, even if the tools are collapsed... 😜

    Taking the copy function a step further, it should have the option to pre-select the tools and layers to copy, similar to the idea of the Autoadjust button, as it serves a similar goal.

    Regards
    BeO
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  • SFA
    BeO,

    For your first point - I have submitted a request to have some sort of summary popup window for the tools used in a layer. Something like the Styles info popup would be a start. I would encourage others to do the same!

    For your second point - I can see that opening a can of worms based on the very different workflows that people use.

    Image to image it would be viable (but possibly no less effort than copying and tidying up afterwards?)

    For a batch selection ... I'm concerned that people won't necessarily know well enough the details of every variant they select in a large batch and end up doing things they don't want to do. After all the main problem of the new approach seems to stem from large batch usage. I suspect that an entirely different approach to batch manipulation would be advisable.

    Indeed one suggestion would be to simply create a new variant for all selected images and copy the adjustments onto that.

    Simple. And quick.

    Except that any crop settings are likely to be an issue unless the crop can also be copied from the source file to all of the new variants.

    If that is not possible and the existing variant have crops (various) applied then a separate approach to cloning crops is required.

    Likewise Layer masks. The issues are surely the same as for crops.

    It all starts to get more and more complex for everyone.

    I would be tempted to suggest that the sort of things required for high volume production might fit better with the Enterprise version (nee Studio) than in a product addressing the volume consumer market where the complexity may not be necessary nor very welcome.

    But of course that is open to debate.


    Grant
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  • BeO
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    SFA wrote:
    BeO,

    For your first point - I have submitted a request to have some sort of summary popup window for the tools used in a layer. Something like the Styles info popup would be a start. I would encourage others to do the same!

    Grant


    Yes I know. I already have a window which is called "Local Adjustments" tool tab (or you create your own) which has all tools which work on a layer.
    Not only do I want to see which tools I have used in a layer but also quickly navigate to them in order to edit, which means it would be a benefit to have the "summary" and tools in question in the same window. It also saves space on the screen. Also, for the opened tools in a tool tab, you see immediately the values or adjustements you have made. So my vote (and my ticket I have created) is to highlight the tools used.

    But I see your separate window proposal, if it is not a pop up but rather a floating window which you could leave on the screen permanently at your will, has some charme too, provided you could quickly jump to the tool of interest, or even open it at the same position within the window itself. Because I want to edit, eventually, and not just "know".

    I believe an implementation to "highlight" the used tools is easier and more consistent with the current UI, it is just "give the used tool a different color" kind of exercise.

    For your point 2: simply? yes, probably right.

    Best,
    BeO

    EDIT: Or, combine my proposal with a toggle button "show/hide unused tools" then you have your summary of only used tools (in that window = floating tool tab) and I have the option to edit immediately or show the unused tools in order to edit a tool I haven't yet edited in this layer. 😊
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  • George Kalogeris

    Hello,

    I tried copying settings from one image to another de-ticking first the extra layers.
    When Pasted, all layers were copied again!

    It seems you need to go to the Clipboard Settings, no easy way

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  • SFA

    George,

    The layers are still layer when unticked. They are just not applied to the image at the time.

    Yes you need to select which layers to copy using the clipboard tool selection options.

    First select the image you wish to copy from and copy to clipboard.

    Then select or deselect as required.

    Then select the the target image or images and apply the selection.

     

    The clipboard will retain the same set of copied edits until they are replaced by another Copy to clipboard related activity.

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  • George Kalogeris

    But are you sure that's the way it used to work in older versions?
    I am unsure about some years ago pressing Alt+Ctrl+Shift+C copied only the selected layer, no?

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  • SFA

    That is not a command I can remember being anything except a short cut to copy all adjustments and apply them, George.

    However I don't claim to remember everything!

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  • S

    Adjustment selecting of copied options working only on Windows. On MacOS this setting not working (i think it's a bug). This is very huge problem and blocker to buy this software. This is base functionality and it not works correct.

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