Migrating Capture one to a new pc, widows 10
Please can somebody give me a simple guide to migrate my existing catalogs, including tag words and ratings of images to a new pc. I started an email trail to capture one support but got no further response and now the email support is not contactable. I simply can not believe that it is so difficult as it must have to happen thousands of times when people's pcs die. The guides to do show a system which simply does not work and Capture one don't seem interested in helping at all.
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NN635310022534890600UL wrote:
Paul
Thanks again Will try copying config.sys file from old to new and see if that works then
Regards Barry
Phase One's USER.CONFIG file.
Config.sys could be a bit too interesting.
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SFA wrote:
NN635310022534890600UL wrote:
Paul
Thanks again Will try copying config.sys file from old to new and see if that works then
Phase One's USER.CONFIG file.
Config.sys could be a bit too interesting.
😂
Does that file still exist? It is from the MS-DOS era.0 -
Paul_Steunebrink wrote:
SFA wrote:
NN635310022534890600UL wrote:
Paul
Thanks again Will try copying config.sys file from old to new and see if that works then
Phase One's USER.CONFIG file.
Config.sys could be a bit too interesting.
😂
Does that file still exist? It is from the MS-DOS era.
Who knows what may have been found with a similar name ...?0 -
Ok. You can see why I am struggling 😊 0 -
NN635310022534890600UL wrote:
Paul
Thanks again Will try copying config.sys file from old to new and see if that works then
Regards Barry
Barry,
Please note that the user.config file is generated automatically on your new system. Copying is seen best as an optionally. This should not hold you from a successful migration.0 -
Where is it to copy? 0 -
Barry,
As Paul said you don't NEED to copy this BUT there are a few settings it contains that you might want to copy over rather than re-create afresh.
Try here
C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Local\Phase_One\CaptureOne.exe_StrongName_[a long list of characters]
At that address you may find several further folders, named for the specific C1 release to which they relate. Each with a user.config file enclosed.
Assuming you are using the same version on the old and new machine is is likely that the the last folder will contain the user.config file you require if you decide to use it.
You should find a same named folder on your new machine (if using the same version) and can copy into that. If that's not the folder for the latest version you are using on the new machine make a copy of what as already there first before copying in the new one.
If you are already using a later version of C1 on the new machine then be sure to make a copy file for what is there already before copying in the older one. That's just in case you have set up something that is contained in the user.config file and will be lost if you decide not to go with the copied in version and delete it.
Basically the file contains the "operational" informations for settings that you have chosen or have been using for C1. So nothing irreplaceable that can't be re-established in a few minutes.
However it also contains a few things that could be a little more complex to remember and recreate - like presets for automatic file naming using the Token systems (on import for example or output).
So whether or not you really need the user.config file is something to consider. I think if making a forced move from one PC to another due to system failure you might want to see exactly the same Capture One on the new machine without the need to reset any preferences etc.
On the other hand if the disk naming conventions on the new machine are different to the old one, other information saved in the file might be incorrect on the new system ... (for example).
I think if you have been successfully running the new machine with C1 I would NOT copy the user.config file over now. It may be a bit late to do so with any real benefits to gain.
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Hi Barry,
If I understood you correctly you still can run C1 on the old machine, so it might be a good idea to run both systems side by side and compre each and every setting in the C1 user interface directly, so you can set up your preferences manually via the user interface. You might be able to spot differences between the two systems by looking at each tool too, e.g. Import the same image and compre each and every tool default setting for this image. But before doing so, do the copy work described below.
I actually did this because I recently needed to switch my C drive (hardware issue) and do a fresh install of Windows and C1. I am running v20 btw.
The catalog is on D drive so only C1 needed to be installed, and references to my raw files are not a problem. You have managed to copy one or the other catalog and adjustments already, right?
I did a side by side comparison from a C backup archive of the users' (same user name btw.) Appdata/local/Capture One sub folders (but you can take your old running system) with the new system and copied over
- Custom commands
- recipies120 (i have ignored the lower numbered recipies folder)
- styles50
-Workspaces130 ( but only my own workspaces I have defined in C1)
I dont have anything in
-keyword librariries
- presets60
But would have copied over if I had.
Ignore
-batch
- imagecore
if you have printer profils in you old system you should copy the respective icc profile files from old Windows/system32/spool/drivers/color to your new PC into a temporary folder, double click on each icc file to install it in your new system ( avoid putting it directly into the system32 ... folder)
Do all this copy work with C1 closed to be on the safe side.
I did this just yesterday and so far I don't see anything missing in C1, and if I will discover missing bits and pieces I am confident I can copy it later or configure new.
Btw. I see this as a chance to rethink one or the other configuration if have kept the same for long periods of time...
You see a lot of help here from users in the forum but we are shooting a little bit in the dark, I think we can better help you if you describe what issues or missing pieces you have with the new system once you have done the main part of the migration.
Regards
BeO0 -
Thanks Grant and BeO for your in-depth replies for which I am very grateful for the time you have taken.
I think I am starting to loose the will to live !!!.
To recap I have, over a period of a few years I set up catalogues in C1 and used keywords and ratings to find images, which cover thousands of photos. I am an amateur photographer (which probably is very obvious now !!) I purchased a new pc before Christmas and installed C1 on that machine. The old pc is still alive and is also running C1. I thought that if I copy simple files such as catalogues and photos (which have been run through C1) then everything would simply continue on the new PC. How wrong I was. The alternative is to go back over the raw photos and add keywords ratings etc and modify all from scratch again, which is why I have got into this mess. I have been onto C1 but they don't understand that their documentation describing the simple process of migrating all simply doesn't work. I suspect that virtually all users , including C1 staff themselves, use Apple Macs and not PCs. I have had correspondence with C1 staff but this dried up very quickly with one email in December and the next late January , nothing since.
I simply just need a simple and comprehensive list of steps stating what to do and which files to copy by someone who has managed to migrate a system to a new pc and then to find my keywords and ratings etc still working on the new pc. This clearly must of happened hundreds of times by users. C1 documentation never mentions Appdata , Userconfig files or others which are clearly within the system to be copied over.
In short I am absolutely disgusted with C1 and have thought of abandoning the system. I had thought of upgrading to version 20 and had downloaded this to try but no difference at all and obviously think of either finishing with it or starting cataloguing from scratch again.
I am very grateful for any advice which I have received by users who clearly have spent some time trying to help sort the matter. Totally amazed that C1 staff can't or won't help. In short TOTALLY RUBBISH0 -
I am in a rush right now so this post is going to be short.
First, dont loose the will to live! No image is worth it.
Second, the keywords and ratings of the images live in the catalog files. Even if the keyword library would be lost. As far as I know, but I dont have a keyword lib, I assume this is stored in the local Appdata folder.
So, the minimum you should do is:
Assuming your original images are outside the catalog, on the file system.
Copy, dont move, your catalogs alongside with the folders "Adjustments" to the new PC.
Copy your original images to your new PC, ideally to the same folder as you have them on your old PC.
Install the same C1 version as you have on your old PC, on your new PC.
Open one of your catalogs and see if you can access your variants, if they have rating, colors and keywords.
Import a new image, as you alsways did, give it some of your keywords you usually do.
Note any difference, any weirds things, and report back.
I think ll the other stuff like copying styles, printer profiles, keyword library, preferences etc. can either be dealt with later or set up by you manually.
Doesnt this sound good enough to give it a try? Or are you afraid to mess ip your new PC? If so cant you ask your son to make a system backup so it can be restored?
Regards0
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