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Getting my picture folders back?

sacherjj
I'm not sure if I am missing something. I imported a Lightroom catalog with pictures that all reside under one folder. Earlier today, I saw all the picture directories under Folders. Now, all I see is In Catalog with 0 (Not storing any images in Catalog.)

I can add a folder, and it shows the full hierarchy up to that folder and the images inside it. I can't find any way to recursively add all sub-directories. I can't manually add all these folders, there are just too many.

I'm not sure how this went away and I worry that it was part of my import process, as I imported from an SD card after my Lightroom conversion.
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  • SFA
    Windows or Mac?


    Grant
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  • sacherjj
    Sorry, should have included that. On Win 8.1.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    After re-reading the OP, I am not sure I understand what has been done in what order and what the current state is. One tip nevertheless: verify the catalog.

    Also make sure you have not accidentally opened another catalog.
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  • sacherjj
    What was missing is the D:\ and folders down to all image folders. I have the correct catalog open, as I see all 38k images under All Images.

    Did a verify and found DB issues.

    Now I'm doing 5 hours of preview generation again. I guess we will see if that also rebuilds the folder structure. Seems like using CaptureOne for anything but the Session is a guessing game of stability.

    I have enabled XMP sidecar files, as I did in Lightroom, because I like belts and suspenders. This now seems not paranoid. I love the performance of CaptureOne and the RAW development process. Everything else has been just annoying.
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  • sacherjj
    OK. Once I did 3 repairs of the DB, it finally would verify as OK.

    For those that lose the folders, it looks like doing a complete import of all images in the catalog again will generate the folders again. The images are skipped, as they still exist (assuming you are NOT storing images inside the catalog.). You will want to turn of the "Show dialog with new events" in the Event Log, as each image is an event of already being there.

    Now generating all previews. Hopefully I can finally get to shooting and importing. I'd like to just use CaptureOne, rather than trying to nurse it to life.

    CaptureOne seriously needs some more robust transactional coding around their Sql DB engine. There are too many reports of corruption and that should be immediately recoverable with a robust engine with true transactions. Only 3 hours left of previews to generate...
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  • sacherjj
    O brother. Now I have two catalog entries for almost every image file. Guess the duplicate detection actually doesn't work.

    Am I on some sort of hidden camera show? This has got to be someone pulling my leg.

    Time to trash my Catalog and start from scratch for the fourth time. Maybe this time I'll see what happens when I just import files and not use Lightroom catalog import.

    Adobe Lightroom is slow. But it actually works. My desire to change to CaptureOne is rapidly fading.
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  • sacherjj
    Well, I now have absolutely zero confidence in the integrity of a catalog on CaptureOne for Windows. I lost much of my Lightroom data by just importing files instead of LR Catalog. Seemed to work OK. Let it spend 5 hours to regenerate previews AGAIN.

    I spend an hour culling images and doing some editing. Figure after a while that I'll backup the catalog and check the integrity. Fails. Repair worked, but what am I losing if any each time. I have no clue.
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  • SFA
    Do you think you might save some of your time and sanity by testing the process that you are using with a small selection from your existing LightRoom data to start with?

    If that fails seek some help from Capture One Support.

    The more failed attempts you have the greater the chance that temporary files and links and who knows what might be left somewhere in the system. I would not rely an Windows (or any OS) knowing how to tidy them up and the same goes for applications unless they have a good idea about what a file might be and how to tidy it up.

    That said one of the reasons I did not grow to like LR when it was launched was the need to put everything into the catalogue, the format of which seemed to change regularly with update releases. Hence I have always worked with applications that were happy with an open file system and accepted that there may be a few limitations with library functions. That makes it easy to test something new on a relatively small sample of images when necessary.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • sacherjj
    I would assume that when I create a brand new catalog, there are no temp links for it. I blow away the previous files and have been using image files in place. Time isn't really a factor for me. I'm more interested in stressing the system with my rather small library to see how it works. It is really nice to easily pull up my 5 star images for the last 15 years. It is hard to do that without a full catalog of everything.

    How are your development settings saved when using with open file system. Is this a session per directory? Or is the data saved complete enough in sidecar files?
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  • SFA
    sacherjj wrote:

    How are your development settings saved when using with open file system. Is this a session per directory? Or is the data saved complete enough in sidecar files?


    Using a session means there is a "Master" session database file that keeps track of the folders and files related to the session and the individual images in the session and, I assume, some other parameter type stuff for convenience.

    For each folder the contains images and that one opens (at some point) in the session there will be another folder (Settings - possibly more than one Settings Folder if the files have been processed with more than one version of Capture One) that contains a file per image with your edit information and, possibly,a file per image for local adjustment mask information if you have used a local adjustments.

    There will also be a "Cache" folder with sub-folders for thumbnails (for convenience although they can be discarded or recreated at any time) and Proxies (Preview files and focus mask files.)

    If you access a folder that has already been edited in, for example, a different Capture One session you can use the previous edit information with the new session as well.

    I can't comment on the of xmp sidecar files to exchange data between applications - it's not something I do.

    So, in summary, as long as you keep the settings files and, presumably, any XMP files you may have generated for any images in a folder that folder and its subfolders can be considered as one entity. The Session folder is a higher level entity that may or may not be the "Master" folder under which all of the session's images are stored since folder can be accessed from anywhere and processed using a session.

    However if the session folder structure is also used as the "Master" folder for a specific set of images you have in effect an open "catalogue" (without full catalogue functionality) into which other applications can dip easily without disturbing the work done in Capture One.

    HTH.



    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    I suggest to enable XMP sync after you have done the Lr catalog import. This may help mitigating any issues due to minimizing the amount of tasks CO8 has to performed at the same time.
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