Photo stacking / Merging not in Capture 20
I would have preferred to edit in Capture One as to having to use a 3rd party software and then edit a TIFF file.
That is the one thing Lightroom has the advantage over Capture One.
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Why would you anticipate something Phase One has given us no indication was even likely to be in Capture One 20? That is the one thing Lightroom has the advantage over Capture One
For you, perhaps. Many of us find Capture One superior to Lightroom - for all sorts of reasons - never having stacked/merged images in our lives.
Have you raised feature requests for stacking?
What did Phase One tell you re: its likely introduction?
I suspect that in reality (given that Phase One is directly influenced the the perceived likely popularity of any new feature) that stacking is currently considered rather too niche to warrant active development.-1 -
I have asked Phase One, there response was "we don't discuss future developments".
I do primarily landscape and photo stacking is nice especially when your camera does Focus Stacking, like my Nikon ZR7. It would be useful when doing Panoramas also.
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Stacking/grouping is hardly niche â€" it's a pretty basic data management tool that both Aperture and Lightroom have had since the beginning. Adding it would greatly improve the usefulness of C1's DAM. 4 -
dsroka wrote:
Stacking/grouping is hardly niche â€" it's a pretty basic data management tool that both Aperture and Lightroom have had since the beginning. Adding it would greatly improve the usefulness of C1's DAM.
The OP is talking about focus stacking - which actually merges multiple images into one.
You are referring to organizationally grouping images. Which I agree would be an excellent addition to the tool but not at all what the OP is asking for.
Of course there is some relationship between the two: I used to group images in LR into a single "LR stack" with the result of my "Focus stacking Merge" on top so I would have one entry in the collection for the one final image but the source images were available in the group. I would love to do that again in C1 - even if C1 doesn't ever do the actually merging of images itself.
It is unfortunate that the word "stack" is commonly used to talk about both concepts.0 -
IanL wrote:
The OP is talking about focus stacking - which actually merges multiple images into one.
Argh, yeah! It's soooo confusing that organizational grouping is called "stacking" instead of just, you know, "grouping".
For focus stacking I rely on Helicon, which has great results, is fast, and integrates well with both Capture One and Lightroom.0 -
I'd be interested to find a non-Adobe image stacking solution but in my case NOT for focus stacking but rather to leverage stacking for blending purposes as is commonly done in astrophotography.
Since leaving Adobe behind some four years ago, because of their sub model money grab, this is literally the ONLY feature I find missing in my non-Adobe suite of imaging tools.
Hoping to find something which will work well for round tripping with Capture One. Thanks.
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Totally agree Patrick. I wish they would put it in. It's something a lot of photographers use, and I'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to bark at you for it but who knows what goes on in peoples' minds, eh?
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I'd be interested to find a non-Adobe image stacking solution...
Affinity Photo does it.
Ian
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@William Scott
"Totally agree Patrick. I wish they would put it in. It's something a lot of photographers use, and I'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to bark at you for it but who knows what goes on in peoples' minds, eh?"
The functionality discussed is somewhat specialised and rarely, if ever as far as I can tell, offered in the domain of a product primarily intended to address RAW file conversion.
With this in mind the most logical way to continue to make the suggestion to "include" it is to use the Feature Request forum or, possibly, create a Support Case. But in reality since everyone will surely know that some people keep requesting the concept and have done so for years with no sign of it becoming a C1 feature. At its best it is processing that requires some specific "skills" in the programming which may not be what the C1 team feel they want to get involved with when there are already many competent application out there that can be used quite readily and easily. There is even a plug-in for Helicon, one of the top rated options.
On rare occasions when I use such facilities I find that Affinity makes for a partner program that is simple to use.
Is it really necessary to create yet another tool so do the same things? If so maybe C1 should consider it but perhaps license it as a separate optional product.
In this "Workflow and Common Exploration" thread there could be value in discussing the optimal ways for working to create best quality images for blending and merging and for discussing which existing blending and merging applications are the best and/or easiest to work with. Perhaps what advantages each have based on the experiences of using them as well.
Wishes, with absolutely no basis of expectation linked to any previous indications of the development direct of the product, just seem to be completely out of place in this section of the forum. And thus somewhat pointless.
If one wishes to add one's vote for a new development project suggestion, purely speculatively since there is currently no way to know what future plans might be, then the Feature Request forum is provided to vacuum those suggestions and feed them to the Product Management team.
If anyone has analysis that might indicate how many thousands of people regularly employ blending in their workflow and would immediately license Capture One if such functionality was to be included (thus offering some sort of cost benefit analysis to support the request for extended effort to create and maintain the required code) that too might help the cause.
But, realistically, unless Capture One has future plans to create some sort of PhotoShop function competitor and move into areas that are less common activities in commercial photography I think the best one can expect is to use the best of the existing products for blending and merging and benefit form their years of development.
Or, depending on which way the camera manufacturers guide their development, buy cameras that have some dedicated blending and merging type features built in (if the quality offered matches one's expectations. It seems that many do, especially where phone camera users are concerned.)
For more specifically specialised needs, like Astro work, there already seem to be some very competent options available to make such interests especially successful and satisfying as an overall experience. That suggests that much work would be required to join the party at a well established level from a zero starting point. Perhaps the co-working/plug-in option offers more for less investment in cash and development effort - and always will?
Who knows?
In many organisations product introduction can be based more on what drives key customers or the interests of senior executives as much as on logical, market driven directions.
Since C1 has a policy of never speculating or pre-announcing on development matters (by more than a day or two prior to release) the better use of time might be to have a discussion about the merits of the various blending and merging applications available and how to work with them most effectively. Whether or not C1 needs to be included in the resulting workflow might be a useful exchange of knowledge in such a discussion.
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I'd be pleased if Capture One let me select a handful of frames and export them as a layered photoshop or tiff file into Photoshop. That would be a nice time saver right there.
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