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How to easily move photos from one catalogue to another ?

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  • John Doe
    Select them, export as catalog, then import catalog.
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  • Ivo Sedlacek
    If I try to do this, "export as catalogue" in the File menu remains inactive
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  • SFA
    NNN636355269067138371 wrote:
    If I try to do this, "export as catalogue" in the File menu remains inactive


    Have you selected the images you want in the Browser?

    Or are you using some other grouping?

    Is the selection a mix of file types?
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  • Stephen Christy
    Although I don't need to do what the original poster needs to do I did try it as a matter of interest. No matter what images I select in the Capture One browser (i.e., whether or not they're a mix of file types) File > Export as Catalog... is always greyed out.

    Capture One 11.0, macOS 10.13.2

    Stephen
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  • HansB
    Create an album or collection containing the images you want to export, select it, and 'export as catalog' will be possible.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • Stephen Christy
    HansB wrote:
    Create an album or collection containing the images you want to export, select it, and 'export as catalog' will be possible.


    Aha, yes that works for meÒ€"so long as I highlight the album or collection name in the left panel. I think the user guide (of which I've downloaded a pdf copy) really could be a little bit more helpful in respect of this function. If there is something there I've not been able to find it in spite of much searching.

    Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I'm sure the original poster will find it helpful, too.

    Stephen
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  • SFA
    I happen to have one of my test catalogue open so tried this on Windows 7 and with a filtered selection of 4 variants (across 2 images) I could simply select all 4 in the browser window and the option to export a catalogue was available in the File menu.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Ivo Sedlacek
    Stephen_C wrote:
    HansB wrote:
    Create an album or collection containing the images you want to export, select it, and 'export as catalog' will be possible.


    Aha, yes that works for meÒ€"so long as I highlight the album or collection name in the left panel. I think the user guide (of which I've downloaded a pdf copy) really could be a little bit more helpful in respect of this function. If there is something there I've not been able to find it in spite of much searching.

    Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I'm sure the original poster will find it helpful, too.

    Stephen


    I don 't understand what you exactly mean to "highlight the album or collection name in the left panel". I can see the name of the catalogue in the left in the library part - when you click on it, other catalogues unfold, that you can open by clicking on them but that's all ... But I don't see any way to "highlight" it.

    What I absolutely miss in C1 is a simply natural process: Select photos in the present catalogue - right click - move to catalogue (= unfolded list of other existing catalogues) + an option (remove for the present one or keep them there too). DONE

    This is very essential thing I would need to do many time: I import many photos in the given catalogue from the SD card, but later I may want some photos to rather logically belong to another catalogue, no to this one. To easily shift them from this one to another one.

    So my question still remains - how to do it ?

    (and another question - why we are here named "NNN636355269067138371" ? How to change this terrible code to some own chosen nickname ? )
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  • HansB
    NNN636355269067138371 wrote:
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    (and another question - why we are here named "NNN636355269067138371" ? How to change this terrible code to some own chosen nickname ? )
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    It's in your user profile on https://www.phaseone.com/. Go to 'My Pages', log in ad choose 'Edit Profile'.

    NNN636355269067138371 wrote:
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    I don 't understand what you exactly mean to "highlight the album or collection name in the left panel". I can see the name of the catalogue in the left in the library part - when you click on it, other catalogues unfold, that you can open by clicking on them but that's all ... But I don't see any way to "highlight" it.
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    In the 'Library' tab - 'Library' tool, select one of the 'Catalog Collections', 'User Collections' or 'Folders'. Don't select a different catalog or session.


    SFA wrote:
    I happen to have one of my test catalogue open so tried this on Windows 7 and with a filtered selection of 4 variants (across 2 images) I could simply select all 4 in the browser window and the option to export a catalogue was available in the File menu.

    HTH.


    Grant

    A difference between Win and Mac? This asks for a support case.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • Stephen Christy
    HansB wrote:

    A difference between Win and Mac? This asks for a support case.


    I agree. I was initially a little shy about responding to Grant's post because I simply couldn't make it work as he did using Windows and thought it must be me being stupid! However, I think there must be some difference so will pluck up my courage and submit my first support case. 😊

    Stephen
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  • SFA
    Stephen_C wrote:
    HansB wrote:

    A difference between Win and Mac? This asks for a support case.


    I agree. I was initially a little shy about responding to Grant's post because I simply couldn't make it work as he did using Windows and thought it must be me being stupid! However, I think there must be some difference so will pluck up my courage and submit my first support case. 😊

    Stephen


    It could be an OS difference. I might depend on how the OS deals with "groups" of things and what it will allow.

    These differences must make things interesting for the software designers and developers just as they do for user community try to compare notes!

    I assume it would always be possible to create a common routine that interfaces between the user instructions and the processing function to make all OSs look and function the same way, other than for their own specific identifications. However my guess is that doing so would tend to increase overheads in the system and so affect performance. And in any case it's a bit like burning cash to re-invent and existing wheel choice.

    Of course there might be other reasons rather than just OS considerations.

    Anyway, I have just combined some testing looking at this question and using a NAS as a storage location for the catalogue (Mapped drive in this case).

    With images in the Browser I always have some sort of "collection" selected in the Library tool which is basically what the "Create Catalogue" routine is using of course.

    I have not undertaken an exhaustive test but I think I covered the various grouping/collection types available and no matter which type I had highlighted the options to Export a Catalog were NOT greyed out.

    Might it be that the the source images are thought to be offline for some reason? If the source file is not available then the catalogue may still appear to be functioning via the preview file access but creating a new catalogue could be barred because the original's location cannot be verified (nor copied into the catalogue if the intent is to make it managed.)

    Whilst it would not surprise me if there are some operational differences between the OSs here I don't think they fully explain the difference experiences.


    Grant
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  • John Doe
    I can confirm that on macOS you can only export as catalog if you highlight a user collection in the Library tool. It doesn't work if you select individual pictures in the Browser (at least not in Capture One v10). Looks like a bug to me.
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  • Stephen Christy
    John Doe wrote:
    I can confirm that on macOS you can only export as catalog if you highlight a user collection in the Library tool. It doesn't work if you select individual pictures in the Browser (at least not in Capture One v10). Looks like a bug to me.


    That is my experience too (even on Capture One 11). I have now submitted a support case indicating that at the very least there may be a difference between Capture One on different operating systems and also referring to the discussion in this thread.

    Stephen
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  • SFA
    Stephen_C wrote:
    John Doe wrote:
    I can confirm that on macOS you can only export as catalog if you highlight a user collection in the Library tool. It doesn't work if you select individual pictures in the Browser (at least not in Capture One v10). Looks like a bug to me.


    That is my experience too (even on Capture One 11). I have now submitted a support case indicating that at the very least there may be a difference between Capture One on different operating systems and also referring to the discussion in this thread.

    Stephen


    If you have an image in the browser tool is it possible that you do not have some sort of collection selected in the Library?

    Referring to my earlier post above - with images selected in the browser, even filtered, it is the entire collection (whatever sort) in the Library and to which the selected few belong, that would be exported.

    For a subset an album of some sort sort or other "collection" type would be required first.

    I'm not really familiar with catalogues so I guess there may be some form of image grouping that might not count as a set of images that can be used to create a new catalogue? Have not found it so far though.


    Grant
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  • Stephen Christy
    SFA wrote:
    If you have an image in the browser tool is it possible that you do not have some sort of collection selected in the Library?


    I use catalogues exclusively and when using the browser am almost invariably highlighting a year (e.g., 2017) folder which is incorporated in the catalogue. If I go to Catalog Collections > All Images the relevant menu item is enabled. In other words, the time it doesn't work is when you're in a folder which you have incorporated in the catalogue.

    Stephen
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  • SFA
    So "Managed" original images.

    That probably makes logical sense from a technical point of view.


    Grant
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  • Stephen Christy
    Actually the original images are referenced. However, I've just discovered what I suspect is a major bug which may have a bearing on the issue the subject of this thread. If I select Catalog Collections > All Images my folders promptly disappear from the catalogue and cannot again be added. In order again to see them I have to restore the catalogue from a backup.

    Apologies if this is regarded as off topic but it seems to me in some way related to what we have been discussing.

    Stephen
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  • Ivo Sedlacek
    But I still don't know how to easily move selected photos from one catalogue to another 😊 Yes, I can select few photos and "export as new catalogue". But I don 't want to create a new catalogue but to move the photos to already existing catalogue.
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  • SFA
    NNN636355269067138371 wrote:
    But I still don't know how to easily move selected photos from one catalogue to another 😊 Yes, I can select few photos and "export as new catalogue". But I don 't want to create a new catalogue but to move the photos to already existing catalogue.


    2 Steps.

    Firstly create the export from your their existing location to get a nice clean and well defined set of images and their edits.

    Then import that nice, fresh, clean set of images into your target catalogue.

    Does that make sense?


    Grant
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  • Stephen Christy
    Purely for the sake of completeness I'm updating this thread following some very patient exchanges with support (by which I mean they were very patient with me!).

    If you have referenced images contained in folders which you have incorporated in your catalogue and you want to use the File > Export to Catalog... menu item on a Mac to export photos to a new catalogue there are two ways in which you can do so. If you want to export all of the images in a folder you can highlight the folder, right click on it and choose Export as a Catalog.

    If, however, you want to export merely a selection of images within the folder you have first to put them in some album or collection, highlight the name of that album or collection and then use Export as Catalog.

    I apologise if most people already knew this and for that fact that doesn't now help the original poster (because he/she wishes to export to an existing catalogue). I just thought it might be helpful not to leave the previous discussion hanging in the air.

    Stephen
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