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Capture one 7 full editing

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  • Fred Greissing
    No. while Capture One has quite elaborate RAW conversion tools it's retouching tools are very limited.
    Even the layers/local adjustment tools are limited to only a small set of tools. There are also issues that will
    make things very tricky. For example if you do a curves adjustment on a base layer and have other layers in a Capture One image the other layers will be offset by the curves tool making certain adjustments limited. For example a curves adjustment on the base layer that results in a desired color shift will make it impossible to desaturate a local adjustment
    even if you set saturation to zero. This sort of thing works you into a corner.

    You are really better off using a combination of tools.

    Capture One and Photoshop, but you will have quite limited integration an a more complex workflow

    Lightroom and Photoshop are far more integrated. RAW conversion setting in Lightroom are carried over to Photoshop.
    The same skin softening plug-ins are available in both programs.

    When it comes to skin, eyes, hair fine tuning the best way to work is with photoshop and contrary to what most will lead you to believe a lot can be done non destructively using RAW smart objects.
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  • SFA
    NNN635420076093616378 wrote:
    Hi all, new to the forum, new to capture one. My question is moving from Lightroom,can capture one be used more than just a RAW editor. Can I do skin softening, eye sharpening and just use it as my main editor and not have to send it to another editor like Lightroom to finish the photo.

    Cheers,
    Gary


    Despite what FredBGG has written it is quite possible to selectively sharpen eyes (or other features) and finesse skin tones and skin appearance using Capture One.

    Whether these features will work exactly to your liking is another matter - which I assume is the basis of Fred's observations. I think they work rather well but everyone should make their own decision about this.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Thedoctor
    All good info, The program that I want to use alongside capture 1 is on ones perfect effects studio. I used the trio version of capture one for some of the bands I shot on tour but I also shoot weddings and lots of street photography B&W. I think I got confused because it sows what other photogs have done with capture 1 But it doesnt say if they are using other programs for the final results.

    Cheers,
    Gary
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  • PhaseoneUser55657
    Its hard to say, but I would say more than 95% use the output of CO7 as input to another program to do finishing touches. (I would say Photoshop would be where most would end up. Never been impressed with the OnOne stuff even as a plug in.)

    I have tried many times to use the features of CO7 fully, and never liked how layers and such interacted. I could never understand why, until very recently, as explained earlier in the thread, what the layers were doing. I have never seen Phaseone put up an explanation of how the layers worked. I just gave up on using layers, and moved any of that into Photoshop, a lot easier.

    To me the spot/dust tools is a joke, usually just creates a mush at the dust spot.
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  • Fred Greissing
    NNN635420076093616378 wrote:
    All good info, The program that I want to use alongside capture 1 is on ones perfect effects studio. I used the trio version of capture one for some of the bands I shot on tour but I also shoot weddings and lots of street photography B&W. I think I got confused because it sows what other photogs have done with capture 1 But it doesnt say if they are using other programs for the final results.

    Cheers,
    Gary


    The fog of Marketing.....

    In reality the photofinishing software is photoshop.
    Just ask any high end retouchers what they use even if they are not doing heavy retouching or visual effects.
    I think it is safe to say that the skin tones, detail, hair etc etc you see in the magazines has more to do with Photoshop than any other software.
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  • Fred Greissing
    SFA wrote:
    NNN635420076093616378 wrote:
    Hi all, new to the forum, new to capture one. My question is moving from Lightroom,can capture one be used more than just a RAW editor. Can I do skin softening, eye sharpening and just use it as my main editor and not have to send it to another editor like Lightroom to finish the photo.

    Cheers,
    Gary


    Despite what FredBGG has written it is quite possible to selectively sharpen eyes (or other features) and finesse skin tones and skin appearance using Capture One.

    Whether these features will work exactly to your liking is another matter - which I assume is the basis of Fred's observations. I think they work rather well but everyone should make their own decision about this.


    HTH.


    Grant


    Skin softening in the real world goes far beyond the limited functionality of Capture One's local adjustments.

    Capture One has far more limited selection capability, fewer adjustments on layers, not even close to the blending modes of
    PS, no frequency separation for keep desired detail and remove undesired detail.

    One thing Capture One does quite well is evening of skin color. This is a handy tool at times. I will use it sometimes, but IMO it is best used to take into photoshop and blend into layers within photoshop because while it does even out skin color other areas of the image are color flattened too. This function is pretty much the only one I sue these days with Capture One (and processing of my MFD archives)

    For someone looking for intelligent and fast skin softening would be much better off adding Portraiture to Photoshop and Lightroom. The lack of plug-in compatibility is also a sever limitation of Capture One.

    Seeing as Grant brings up "my observations".... well they are the result of 30 years of Fashion, Beauty and Portraiture.
    It is totally unrealistic suggest to someone leaving Lightroom/Photoshop that they will be able to do the same type of powerful skin softening in Capture One.
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  • MikeV
    For skin softening you can apply a local adjustment and set some negative clarity. The whole process is well explained here:


    Hope this helps?
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