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Add Keywords on Import?

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  • John Doe
    Create a user preset then when you import select your preset in the Adjustments tab.
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  • Joseph Holmes
    Ah, thanks for that tip.

    It does seem like a workaround, though.

    So each I come back from a shoot with a full card I have to create a new preset to account for the different keywords that apply?

    Aperture made this so easy -- just type the keywords into the Import dialog box. I did it all the time.
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  • John Doe
    Indeed.

    Another way to do this is to simply import your pictures then click on the topmost Recent Imports collection. All the pictures you've just imported will be there, and you can then Select All and click on the relevant keywords from your Keyword Library to apply them (I have this tool on my second display for quick access). Probably more convenient if you use a lot of different keywords.
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  • Joseph Holmes
    That’s how I’ve Even doing it, but it’s still a few extra steps for a task I do at least once a day.
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  • SFA
    How many extra keystrokes?
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  • Joseph Holmes
    Enough to be annoying.

    No single shortcut would make my day, but all the good ones add up to a much smoother experience.

    Especially since I'm used to using this one from my years with Aperture.
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  • SFA
    Just wondering if you have yet found the optimum way for you to work with C1's Keywording possibilities. There are a number of options and potentially several different work flow approaches.
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  • Joseph Holmes
    Every import from a card (which I do once or twice a day) typically involves 100-300 images, and usually all of them take one or two identical keywords, typically the location which changes daily (thus a preset wouldn't be useful). That's where I'd like to simply type the keyword common to all the images into the Import dialog box.

    Once imported, then groups of one to five or ten images all get the same keywords, so I do that manually by selecting the one or three or five images and typing the keywords separated by commas. If it's a keyword I've used before, it will pop up as a suggestion, and I'll use that pop up to add the keyword.

    I haven't found any shortcuts to make that process faster or easier. Keywording is important but tedious.
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  • John Doe
    joeholmes wrote:
    Every import from a card (which I do once or twice a day) typically involves 100-300 images, and usually all of them take one or two identical keywords, typically the location which changes daily (thus a preset wouldn't be useful). That's where I'd like to simply type the keyword common to all the images into the Import dialog box.

    Well then:
    Aperture = import dialog > type keyword > import
    Capture One = import dialog > import > click Recent Imports > select all > type keyword

    The difference is one mouse click + a keyboard shortcut (cmd-A). Doesn't sound too tedious to me.
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  • SFA
    It sound like you may have the main part in place and there might be some slight refinements to be found that would help.

    The Preset for the basic common "words" might not be so unhelpful as you think since there is a chance that creating before importing anything it really not so different to keying in the kws at import. Add the preset to the import and that's it.

    What you do is, up to that point, similar to my requirement but I have decided that it is just as easy to import (my shoots may cover several days) everything and keyword afterwards. Just select all images in the session and add the common kws. Then go for segregation for the rest of them - but that's where my needs can get messy no matter which approach I take and kws on import are really not much use to me most of the time.

    I think In your situation it would be interesting to consider just adding all kws after import. The common ones as well as the specifics.

    For example if you created a a comma separated line of KWs, common words at the front, and then simply edit that line as you go in a text editor (for example) and cut and paste it into the KW tool having selected each set of images, could that become an effective approach? Would it save time or effort? If delivery time post shoot is critical could the KW combinations be, in part or on total, pre-created before the shoot?

    Taking a different approach I have found some use for setting up one or a limited number of images with common KW needs and then selecting all others that likely have the same KW requirements and viewing the resulting list of words together with indications of which words are missing from some images. Then just click on the words to add them (or in some case remove any that should not be there and have crept in by accident. It's bound to happen when there are several thousand images in play.)

    FWIW I use a session based workflow and there are possibly some aspect of that, compared to importing into a catalogue for example, that influence the options one has when working out the optimal, least effort strategy for different types of shoot. I certainly don't think that for my needs there is a single "always does it all" approach but I'm fairly happy with the options for general Keywording. The details, in my case more often than not, are a pain to deal with no matter what possible approaches one might use short of AI and some sort or extremely smart system to do pattern matching of some sort. Face identification, for example, might have some small part to play if it could deal with low levels of detail and large numbers of faces not always clearly identifiable! Even then I would need some sort of input file to provide a target match.

    I have no idea if this response suggests any new ideas but in general I suspect it should be possible to find ways of doing what you need at different points in the work flow but with little or no change in overall effort - unless I have missed some important aspect of you description for which there is no immediately available equivalent method.


    Grant
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  • Joseph Holmes
    It's great to hear another user's workflow.

    I have a feeling I'm close to being as efficient as it gets in Capture One. Aperture had another shortcut that I used quite a bit: a panel of (if I remember) ten or twelve buttons that you could load with common keywords. So for instance, most people would put family names in the buttons to make it easy to tag photos of their family. I used the buttons for keywords to label my most common projects. It was simple but useful.

    I shouldn't complain. Keywording, as you noted, will always be a pain.

    In the scheme of things, I should recognize that II was lucky to be able to switch from Aperture to an application that used pretty much the same approach to cataloging. It was an easy transition. (Especially since I found that I hate Adobe Lightroom!)

    Thanks for your thoughts on keywording.
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  • NNN636678804758222751
    Should there be a limit to how many keywords you should add at this point?
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    joeholmes wrote:
    I have a feeling I'm close to being as efficient as it gets in Capture One. Aperture had another shortcut that I used quite a bit: a panel of (if I remember) ten or twelve buttons that you could load with common keywords. So for instance, most people would put family names in the buttons to make it easy to tag photos of their family. I used the buttons for keywords to label my most common projects. It was simple but useful.


    It sounds like you could use the Keyword Library tool to accomplish a very similar thing:
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  • Don Paluh

    I came looking for the same thing, and like Aperture, I always put in basic keywords on import such as the name of the shoot, location, i.e. So-and-so's wedding, ceremony, reception, etc. It's hard to believe after all these years CaptureOne has not figured this out. But then there are all the fun printing foibles.

     

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  • Walter Rowe
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    Not the most ideal solution but you can create a metadata preset with keywords and apply that during import.

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