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Workflow Question

Gerd Mueller
I'm a newby on C1 and uncertain about my workflow. Would be nice to get some help:

1. Import RAW Files into a DAM (IMatch) set the Metadata, rename them.
2. Move the pictures into a C1 Session into the Select Folder with IMatch. This Session is allways the same. Not a different session for each import.
3. Work on the RAWs in C1
4. Export JPGs from C1 to a folder indexed by the DAM Software
5. From within the C1 Session I move the RAWs to an external drive. The C1 Settings are moved as well to this drive.

So far I'm quite happy with my workflow. Now my worries:

I have organised my RAW files on external drives in folders for each year. If I want to work on a picture on my drive in C1 I use the above mentioned session and chose the year-folder on my external drive with several thousand images. C1 starts reading this folder which takes several minutes. Maybe because new previews are generated? If I want to work with an other folder (other year) it tooks a long time again to read this folder ☹️ .

Next I created a session for each year-folder and made this folder to the select-folder in C1. If I work on an Image on the the external drive a second subfolder is created. In C1 a variant is created. I'm confused 😕

Does anyone has an idea to improve my workflow?
Thank you, Gerd
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  • SFA
    Hello Gerd,

    I thing you may find that what C1 is doing is loading the contents of the currently selected folder into memory (and clearing, with maybe some saving activity for generic information rather than "edit" instructions, whatever was in memory previously) so that it can avoid, so far as possible, continuous loading from disk when users are scrolling through the browser and so on.

    S it takes some time when a folder is selected with the intention of improving the experience once the memory has been populated.

    If necessary you can, of course, filter the folder if you know it is taking longer than you enjoy and so reduce the time it takes to get just the images you want but whether that is worth doing depends on just how long things will take.

    As I recall C1 also attempts to predict and "pre-load" images that seem to be likely candidates for you next interest after the one you are working on. I think in practise that means different things for different situations but in a general "browse" retaining previously viewed image and predicting what the next one will most likely be seem to be the most likely candidates.

    In theory you can just dive in to edit images even when they are still loading and you can and it works fine - unless you are seeking a specific image and have no way of filtering for it. In that case you may need to wait until it has been loaded as a thumbnail before working on it.

    Things will almost certainly take a little longer when loading from an external drive but once in memory you may not notice much difference compared to an internal drive depending on what you are doing.

    I find that, using Windows 7, working from an external USB 3 drive using a cable that works well (not all do, especially the longer they get) is fine so long as the drive is not set to "power save" after a short time of non-demand. It is certainly slower for some things but not badly so.

    However a NAS can be a different matter - unless it is configured for performance as in "server like" performance and so rather high cost units.

    From your description I think what you are experiencing is the normal trade-off between taking some time for pre-loading files compared to reading only on demand. If you know you only want one file then pre-loading several thousand is not such a great idea. But if you are planning to browser around several thousand files pre-loading may save a lot of time overall and make for a much better experience.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Gerd Mueller
    Hello Grant

    Thank you for your detailed answer.

    SFA wrote:
    If necessary you can, of course, filter the folder if you know it is taking longer than you enjoy and so reduce the time it takes to get just the images you want but whether that is worth doing depends on just how long things will take.

    Do you know how to filter for a single file in a session without loading the whole folder? This would help me a lot (I think) 😊.

    Regards,Gerd
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  • NNN636589210322388041
    I treat each session as like a catalog in Lightroom, which has photos from each shoot in it's own session (subject). I have them organized in a by the year in a folder and when I want to edit or look at specific photos I go to the session folder open it and double click the capture one icon for that session. It only opens that session and the related photos which doesn't take that long. I still need to refine my work flow with a broader library, but this is working for the time being and seem to be efficient. You just have to name your sessions in a way that makes sense to find your specific images.
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  • SFA
    GerdM wrote:
    Hello Grant

    Thank you for your detailed answer.

    SFA wrote:
    If necessary you can, of course, filter the folder if you know it is taking longer than you enjoy and so reduce the time it takes to get just the images you want but whether that is worth doing depends on just how long things will take.

    Do you know how to filter for a single file in a session without loading the whole folder? This would help me a lot (I think) 😊.

    Regards,Gerd


    Gerd,

    My apologies, I missed this back in November.

    If you know the file name (for example) or part of it you can simply key that into the browser search window.

    The full folder will still be opened (in the case of a session) but you requested file will be found and displayed.

    If your search matches multiple files than multiple files will be displayed but even then a small number of files quickly diaplayed is more usable than waiting for an entire (if large) folder to be loaded.

    I'm guessing you may have discovered this by now.


    HTH.


    Grant
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