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How to delete RAW and JPG at the same time

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  • John Doe
    What's the point of importing the JPEG version in the first place?
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  • kevinuofm
    hmm... Good question, importing JPGs allows the photos to be viewed without using Capture One using Finder. Finder won't let you preview or open RAW files without Capture One or some other software.
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  • Tim Trim
    As long as the camera is supported in Apple's RAW support Finder will show thumbnails and also full-size previews with quick view?
    Which camera are you using?
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  • kevinuofm
    Tim Trim wrote:
    As long as the camera is supported in Apple's RAW support Finder will show thumbnails and also full-size previews with quick view?
    Which camera are you using?


    I'm using the Sony A7III
    When I look at finder, all I see is a blank sheet icon next to the raw (.ARW) files and preview just has a spinner that spins forever and never generates any previews. I'm on Mac 10.12 Sierra.

    But I think the original question is I'd like to be able to delete a JPG and have the corresponding RAW also be deleted, there doesn't seem to be a good way to do that.

    Do you guys only shoot in RAW and not worry about generating JPEG until after you've done post-processing?
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  • Tim Trim
    I think you are out of luck with that version of OSX and RAW support, Apple don't tend to update for legacy versions of OSX. As far as I know they haven't updated the current OS yet to support A7III.

    Without resorting to AppleScript I think you are going to struggle to do this in C1 automatically.

    I never shoot RAW+JPEG and only create JPG after post-processing.
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  • John Doe
    kevinuofm wrote:
    Tim Trim wrote:

    Do you guys only shoot in RAW and not worry about generating JPEG until after you've done post-processing?

    Yes indeed.
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  • kevinuofm
    Thanks all for your valuable input. I will try shooting in raw only. After hours of trying to clean Up both raw and jpeg photos I now see the error of my ways.
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  • SFA
    kevinuofm wrote:
    Thanks all for your valuable input. I will try shooting in raw only. After hours of trying to clean Up both raw and jpeg photos I now see the error of my ways.


    If you have both and as long as they are in the same folder (for example) and have the same name except for the file type suffix, then it should be possible to display them side by side making it easy enough to select both and delete them together.

    There would also be search options although such a solution might work well for low numbers of removals - not so well for mass culling


    HTH.

    Grant
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  • Matthew Jones

    I've been experimenting with a new workflow that includes RAW+JPEG. I shoot with the Fujifilm X-T3, and I often want to keep the JPEGs, and view them next to the RAW.

    To make this work, you have to adjust Preferences, and create a few shortcuts.

    Step 1: Edit > Preferences > Image > Metadata > Auto Sync sidecar XMP - Full Sync

    Step 2: Edit > Edit Keyboard Shortcuts > View > Global Filters > Always Hide JPG - (I set my key to F12)

    Step 3: Edit > Edit Keyboard Shortcuts > View > Global Filters > Always Hide RAW - (I set my key to F11)

    After importing your RAW & JPEG files, you can use the new shortcut F11 to exclusively review JPEGs, or F12 to exclusively review RAW.

    The Preference setting will automatically create a Sidecar XMP file for your photos. If your RAW & JPEG photos have the same name, the XMP file will apply to both formats, regardless of the file extension (.JPG .RAW).

    When you review your photos, and give your JPEG a Red Color Tag or 1 Star Rating, it will reflect in the RAW file as well; and vice versa.

    Once you finish tagging & rating your photos, use the Capture One filter tools in the Library tab or Browser to only display photos with a Red Color Tag or 1 Star Rating.

    You can then send all these rated photos to the Session Trash.

    Note: Auto Sync sidecar XMP may slow PC performance. You will also see XMP files written in the same folders as your photos when using a File Explorer.

    If you don't want to auto sync, first hide all RAW files with (F11) and rate all your JPEGs with the desired rating. Second, select all JPEGs in the Browser, right-click a photo, and select "Sync Metadata".

    Next, hide all JPEGs (F12), and reveal all RAW (F11). Select all your RAW files in the Browser, right-click a photo, and select "Load Metadata".

    Your ratings from your JPEGs will now be applied to your RAW files.

    (Capture One 20, Build 13.1.1)

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  • Christophe DAGUET

    Matthew Jones, you're the best ! 

    it simply works.

     

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  • Matthew Jones

    @Christophe DAGUET

    My pleasure!  I'm happy the post was helpful!

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  • Hartmut Wilms

    @matthew You're a real lifesaver. In the beginning I was going to close this thread, because I read all the comments that do not answer the question, but question the question at hand. I hate this.

    Then I scrolled to the end and read your precious solution. Thank you!

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  • Johannes DE-AN

    @ Matthew Jones

    Thank you so much for your solution! This thing bothered me for so long using CO.
    A lot of times I used my good old and lean Breeze Browser Pro picture viewer Software for deleting the "bad" raw & jpgs at the same time.
    I just stumbled across your discription. Great!

    I was hoping in CO21 they have some function integrated to do this, like pairing Raw & Jpg, as it can be done in the renaming section (function) of the software.
    I never will understand that there are some functions you really need often, but they are not integrated in a easy usable way or function.

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  • sim_uji

    @Matthew Jones MARRY ME!

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  • Matthew Jones

    @Hartmut Wilms

    @Johannes DE-AN

    @sim_uji

    You're welcome!  And thank you for the replies!  I'm super happy the post continues to help people :)

     

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  • Myname Mylast

    Hi,
    does newest version of Capture one have this option to merge jpeg and RAW?
    Answering all of you who ask why I need this - because I do and please lets leave it like this.
    This is the only thing that is keeping me with Lightroom.
    Matthews idea looks great, and I will try it on my Mac, but I do edits not only on Mac, and I don't think Windows will allow me to do something similar.

    I saw many people asking for that function for many years already in Capture One and there is still nothing new in this subject?

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  • Matthew Jones

    @Myname Mylast

    I currently don't use the latest version of Capture One, so I can't answer that question. I haven't seen any updates adding the feature either.

    The method above works on Windows, and should work on Mac since the program features are the same.

    I edit on a Windows PC.

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  • Myname Mylast

    Oh, that is a great news. I will try. Thank you. I hope Capture One will have this as its native feature so we don't need to use workarounds :-(

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  • FirstName LastName

    @Matthew Jones

    Thanks for sharing your detailed instructions.  Doesn't this method cause previews to be generated twice, so there's a bit of a drawback there?

    To no one in particular:
    I expected understanding of RAW+JPEG to be table stakes for photo editing software.

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  • FirstName LastName

    From @Matthew Jones

    "I expected understanding of RAW+JPEG to be table stakes for photo editing software."

    I second that.

    A) Do this, then do this, then do this....then do this.

    B) Just do this

    Which one would you pick?

     

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