plugin frustration
If you're looking to see how to add an app to the list of applications and don't want to read this story, just go to the end of my whining. I have instructions with the words "HOW TO ADD YOUR EXTERNAL PROGRAM TO THE PLUGIN LIST'.
I'm regretting buying this software without trying it out first. Got a lot of good feedback from other forums on Capture One but as I'm using it, it seems limited.
Basically, I'm trying to use a few apps from Topaslabs and Nik. based on this link https://lenscraft.co.uk/photo-editing-tutorials/capture-one-plugins-and-the-nik-collection/ it should appear in the list but what is shown for me is a few unrelated photo editing apps. Pressing the + button on the bottom left only allows these types *.coplugin! wth???
Reading the comments of that link, where someone responded to a question of they can't see their Nik on the list, with are you searching executables? I'm scratching my head saying, how the hell does one does that? So I go back to the plugins tab to see if there's any option to add executable to the list. nothing. I look and look and notice that one of the items on the list is Pick an app. Ok, I click on that thinking it'll prompt me to pick a (#$@$!@#!@) app. No, it just unchecks the item. ugggh why did I listen to those forum people?!!! 😭
So I go to this forum and do a search. Can't find anything on this. I go back to that link to see if I missed anything on that video but it doesn't mention anything. I hate people right now. 🤬 kept playing it and I see where he right clicks the image to select an app. I see in his version, it had other. hummm, would that "Pick an app" let me select an application to use? duh! it does.
***************************** HOW TO ADD YOUR EXTERNAL PROGRAM TO THE PLUGIN LIST *********************************
So here's the deal to add an app not on the plugin list. Go to a photo and right click it. Select Edit with.. then select "Pick an app" and go search for your program and select it. it will open up that program and add it to the list in the plugin tab. Unfortunately, if you have many, you'd have to do this for all the programs you want to add.
I sure hope that version 20 makes this easier and adds better cloning abilities cause I'm really regretting my purchase right now.
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Not clear whether you are on Mac or Windows, and adding that information to your post may help others reading it. (if it's Windows, then it may be that that is part of the issue. I'm a Mac user, but as I understand it, it is harder to get apps onto the list on Windows than it is on Mac.)
Do you really need to go through adding lots of programs to the list at once? You can just add them one at a time when the need to do so arises.
Ian0 -
Thanks Ian,
I added text on the top to signify this was on Windows 10.
True, I can them as needed but sometimes I'm in a rush and I rather have them available without going out and searching for them.0 -
It's a question of Windows file associations and whether or not an application, when installed, identifies to Windows which file types it claims it is able to edit. Also whether such an association is allowed at the time end so on.
One problem may be that the applications try to make themselves the "default" programs for the list they claim and if that claim is disallowed I get the impression that the association concept often fails.
It is, of course, entirely possible to associate any program with any file type - indeed windows will often do that AND set a default - even though the association is entirely incorrect.
Now my experience are based on Win 7 as I have so far avoided Win10 but I have not read any comments from Win 10 user to suggest the way things are handled is greatly different.
So in theory Windows does the work for us and C1 taps into that.
In practise that may not be as complete as one might like.
Having a dedicated tool on C1 would, at least nominally, provide full control but perhaps at the cost of forcing people to take control whether they need to or not.
Grant0 -
I have similar problems, the only editors listed in the drop down are Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo.
I want to be able to use the Nik tools and others as external editors and while I can use these tools through the Edit With menu item, I always have to use 'browse' then navigate through the file system to the external editor and select. Although this works, it is not a good work flow, too many clicks.
I have looked under preferences, at the plug in settings and only the Affinity apps are available as 'allowed editors'. I have seen videos of other configurations of Capture One that show Nik and others available for selection under the plug in settings and I have to wonder how Capture One is making the determination as to which apps are allowed and which are not. It seems quite a random selection to only allow certain apps, while other similar image editing apps (Dxo for example) remain unavailable. Maybe Capture One should not be making the determination, maybe us as users and customers need to be able to decide how we configure the application to suit our workflow.
It seems strange to me that while Capture One is a wonderful tool and creates a very pleasing image, it is the least interoperable image editing software I have ever used and can be quite constraining from a work flow perspective (in what is supposed to be a creative medium). Capture One does not at all play well with others.
Why can Capture One not use photoshop plugins natively, or if there is a problem with this then why can it lot let the user configure the external editor through the settings as many other editors allow (Nik allows both access through photoshop style plug in and via executable as an external editor). A frustration to what is generally a good tool. Rant over.
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For Windows users, there is a simpler way to do this than to go through the "Pick an App" gyration.
You can edit the configuration file directly. it will be in:
C:\Users\{USER}\AppData\Local\CaptureOne\Defaults.BuiltInOpenWithPluginSettings.xml
Open it in a text editor (I like Notepad++ because it understands text file formats and will format appropriately).
The entries are very simple.
There is going to be another selection, looks like this:
<KeyValueSerializableOfStringBoolean>
<Key>c:\windows\system32\openwith.exe</Key>
<Value>true</Value>
</KeyValueSerializableOfStringBoolean>Copy this and paste it below the selection. The replace the "c:\windows\system32\openwith.exe" with the path to your application.
This takes significantly less time then to go through the "Pick an App" gyration. Just make certain Capture One is not open while you are doing this as it's possible to Capture One will rewrite over your edited file when it closes.
good luck
chris
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Chris,
I tried adding to the file suggested and unfortunately it didn't work. Not sure why, checked the formatting, no joy... I was getting hopeful there for a while.
Capture One is reading the file, I changed some of the true statements to false in the file and this is then reflected in the selected as active entry items in the plugin preferences after restart. But it completely ignores any new app entries I put in the file. It still only lists Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer and Windows Photo Viewer as allowed apps. Something funny is going on for sure. I edited with Notepad++.
I am going to have to submit a support request, although the last support request I submitted seems to have fallen on deaf ears (although to be fair they may be a bit busy with the recent update).
Regards,
Mark
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