Set a saved workspace as my default workspace
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I would to be able to set a saved workspace as my default workspace so that I do not have to switch to it each time I open CO.
Thanks.
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Which version of C1 are you using?
If you have saved a Workspace did you do so and give it your own name rather than a Default system Workspace name?
If so I would expect you to be using the same Workspace (as last saved) when you reopen a Catalog or Session as was in use the last time you used the catalogue or session - providing that saved Workspace is still available in the C1 User environment.
I am assuming you are not using a CH or Enterprise version - they may have some other controls in place for multi-user environment management.
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I am using CO 20 and it does remember the last active tab. When I go to a custom tab I created it is not remembered. The tools are there but the order in which they appear are different and, some are expanded or closed. If I chose my workspace then CO reverts my custom tab to what I created. Perhaps this should be a problem report?
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Generally I find that Capture One opens at the last tab I was on, and with the tools expanded or collapsed according to how they were when I quit the appals time. So I have a custom tool tab with my most-used tools on it. If I select that tab, then quit, it opens at that tab when I restart the app. If I collapse one of the tools, then quit, that tool is shown collapsed when I restart the app.
I know of no way of making Capture One restart with everything reset to a default state (so for example with that tool not collapsed).
Ian
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I'll clarify, the issue I am having is that a tool tab I created is not being remember correctly when CO is initially opened. The tools are appearing in the wrong order. When I re-load my saved workspace my custom tool tab changes to display as I saved it. I did not realize that this was the actual problem I was experiencing when I made the request. This should probably be a problem report.
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Yes it should be a problem report BUT there is also the possibility that you have something unusual happening with the User preferences file which is where the 'last known used' settings are held. Sometimes they can end up "stuck" or corrupt and introduce unexpected and unwelcome results.
Certainly something to be checked, especially since the changes are obviously being saved on the basis that you can reload them.
Are you using Mac or Windows?
I've no idea it is will change anything but if you reload your saved workspace and then save it again, then close C1 without doing anything else, does that change anything that happens next time you open the same session or catalogue?
Just trying to come up with a sequence that might force something to happen to bring the system back in line with expectations. This suggestion might not be the answer but for the sake of a few seconds is work trying.
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I am on a Mac, all software is up to date.
Thanks for the suggestions. I took it one step further and deleted my workspace and created another based on the same layout. Same results.
Doing a little QA work, it appears that the Color Editor tool is the problem. In case you're desperate for something to do these quarantined days; create a new workspace with lots of tools including Color Editor. Make sure Color Editor is not the first tool. Save the workspace, close CO then re-open. Does the Color Editor tool now appear as the first tool as it does for me each time?
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Scrollable, it goes to the top of the scrollable tools. My pinned tools are not effected.
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I have the same issue. It's annoying to have to select my custom workspace every time I start CO.
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Hi Michael,
Thank you for feedback on Capture One - this is always welcomed and encouraged among our users and we appreciate the time you've taken to contribute towards the development of the software.
I have forwarded your comments and suggestions to our Product Management team as something to consider in a future release.
Whilst we cannot comment on future releases, we take all suggestions on board and hopefully your feedback contributes towards a future version of Capture One.
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Still no news on this?
Capture One is supposed to be a tool to streamline our workflow, and it's becoming a bit annoying that each time I open a session I need to go to Window/ Workspace and select my own workspace.
I've tried to save it as default, with different names, etc. but every single session it goes back to another layout that is neither the default nor the last one I used.
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Polo
Maybe you need to contact support about this. Most of us find that Capture One does open for us at the workspace we were last using. I have set up my favoured arrangement of tools, tabs, browser visibility, etc, and saved it under the name Ian. Capture One always opens for me in that workspace (except after an update, when I just have to select the Ian workspace and life goes back to what it was before).
If that doesn't happen for you, something must be preventing it, perhaps some system setting that Support could help you track down? (I don't think you can save your workspace with the name "Default" because that is the name for the default workspace that Capture One provides, but you shouldn't need to.)
Ian
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Still doesn't work for me either. Also my toolbar has to be "Customised/Done" every time I load up, otherwise it doesn't appear. Support have been pretty useless. It works with a new user...so they suggest a full reinstall through an enormously lengthy and complex process...I have pointed out this has been an issue for over a year, and that I am paying customer...NOT a beta tester.
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I don't know about Macs but assume it is intended to work the same way as Windows.
In Windows there is a userconfig file (plist in Mac world I think?) which dynamically records the settings of many things including the current state of the Workspace per session. So for any session I have worked on (so long as the session has closed correctly without any system induced glitches), on re-opening the session it will, generally, go back to how I left it. The same with catalogs.
Things may ba=e a little more convoluted when running with multiple sessions open at the same time although I tend to close them one by one using the "Close Window" option.
However I got the impression that the original post was about creating and opening a new session (or catalogue) on a completely fresh start and for me that is a rare event without having already opened C1 with an active session and its settings.
Maybe there is a difference there that introduces a requirement to change the default workspace on first use. I'm not sure - it has never seemed to be a problem for my needs. I will check next time I need to start a new session.
One possible oddity is that even with multiple sessions open the current state of the Workspace as far as tools are concerned is, generally, applicable to all open sessions so that may be a factor in how the dynamic settings are saved and how they appear at next use.
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Thanks SFA. I don't use sessions, and I don't expect to have to go into Terminal and modify plists...although I have tried this. My patience with Capture One is wearing thin...
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It should be the same for Catalogues. You should not have to modify plists but, from time to time, writes to files can be disrupted for many reasons and, being dynamic, the most obvious way to deal with them is to allow them to recreate and start afresh. They are ever changing anyway but can also end up with a lot of rather obsolete information in them
At least that is what I would expect to do with Windows. I'm not sure if there are other implications with Macs.
For recent releases (from about V12 iirc) I find legacy files for the final state of userconfig files in Windows on a version by version basis. I assume the rationale is that if anyone should wish at some point to revert to an older release the various dynamic settings, values of which may in some cases be different for newer releases, are retained ready for use and by user. This may have greatest pertinence in studios where a computer may have many users and be running different versions at certain points in time.
However it does offer the possibility that a new installation ends up picking up a start file from an earlier time every time C1 is opened rather than opening up the dynamic settings as saved after last use.
That could be very confusing. It is not something I can recall experiencing myself after a successful installation or update. I may have missed it if it did happen.
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Matthew,
If there has been a significant change to the content of the screens and the functionality available, such that the default Workspaces have been updated, then the first open after an update will reflect those changes.
You should be able to open your saved Workspaces and nd load the saved Workspace you require.
However in some updates the changes require re-working old Workspaces where the changes are so significant - new tools, old tools deprecated, etc., etc. - that the old workspace may no longer work effectively as it is.
Presets and Styles should be carried forward although even then there may be some updates that might just possibly break presets and styles that use tools or settings that have been changed for the new version and for which users need to be aware of the changes and make decisions about how they wish to address the changes. Especially for one's own preset and style definitions.
Usually a session will have its "last used" state saved in a configuration file together with the version information for which version was in use at the time the session was last open. In my experience, whenever feasible this information is used to set up the session to be as it was last left the next time it is opened.
If the update requires a session file update a new file will be created for the session and an attempt will be made to bring forward the user configuration settings as well so long as the settings in question is still used in the same way by the updated software.
I use Windows and this all seems to work as one might expect, noting the obvious constraints as above, as far as I can tell. Perhaps there are other issues with the Mac approach that consistently make the "bring forward" options less possible?
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Hello.
I use C1 22.x , also work exclusively with sessions and have exactly the problem described here at the beginning.
When I start a new session, I have to open my workspace every time. The new session is first started in the default working environment. If I call an already created session, it is started with my customized interface, because I have customized it there. So the interface is saved correctly.
How can I define my working environment as default for new sessions?0
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