Problem picking a color with the advance color editor
I have noticed that frequently when I go to a not yet used advanced color editor, the picker does not seem to work. That is, I try to select a color, but no selection occurs. I have found that if I click on the plus (+) symbol to add a line to editor, I strange colored circular object appear. I don't know what it is supposed to do. But once that happens, the picker will now work. I select colors and deliberately delete the "plus" line by using the minus symbol. I wonder if others have a problem selecting color, or if there is something about the selection process that I am overlooking. This problem has occurred in version 8 and version 9.
Thanks,
Fred Wolfe
Thanks,
Fred Wolfe
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It sounds as though you must be doing something strange. There should be no need to use the + key. If you select the advanced colour editor, the "circle" thing (colour circle) will be all black, because no colour is yet selected. Then click the picker tool (to the bottom right of that circle) and use it to click a colour in the image. You should find that a sector of the colour circle is now shown as selected - if you clicked on a reddish area, for instance, you should see a wedge in the reddish part of the circle.
Is it possible that you have used the wrong picker? If you click and hold on the picker tool on the toolbar at the top, you will see that pickers for a huge number of things are available. That's why I suggested using the picker in that tool itself.
Ian0 -
In response to your suggestion, I did some further manipulations.
1. I open a jpeg file. I Go to color editor. I click on the picker. The tab does not show a layer of a "background" because no layer has been selected. It works, the color is displayed on picking.
2. I go to another similar file and repeat. It works again.
3. I go to a 3rd file. I make a gradient mask. I go to the color tab. It shows “layer 1.†The picker shows a layer picker. I click on the picker and then on an a) a section that is controlled by the mask and after a section that is not controlled by the mask. Neither will pick up a color after clicking on the layer associated clicker (which is the “pick color correction on associated layer).†I then switch the picker to the non-layer “Pick Color Correction†picker and it works. The adjustment layer still shows layer 1 - as it always has. I now change the picker back to the pick color correction on associated layer†and it does not work: no color is shown.
The result of this one image check is to show that after making a gradient mask no color is picked using the default “associated layer†picker, but a color is picked using the non associated color picker, even though the adjustment show “Layer 1.â€
Now, with the layer associated picker selected, I change from “Layer 1†to “Background.†It does not work. I switch the picker to the non “associated picker†and click again; it does not work.
I then click on the + sign and a new color line is made (The Icon is a colored ball). I now immediately click on the image without changing anything else. It works. It didn’t work until I made a dummy (+) entry.
Now, I go to a 4th file, a RAW file that has a gradient. On the color tab, it shows "background." I click on the picker and it works. I change to "layer 1" and it works, even with the non layer associated picker. I now go back to "background" and it does not work, and not even when I switch back to "Layer 1," and not even if I switch to the layer associated picker. Now I add a plus line and it doesn't work with the associated clicker, but does if I change the clicker to a non layer associated clicker.
I conclude that there is some software issue that prevents the clicker from working under some conditions. Also the non-layer and layer clickers do not always respond as expected. If tech support can show this on their machine, they should be able to sort it out quickly enough. I am using late 2013 MP quad core with 32 GB of memory and internal disk.
Thanks for your helpful suggestions.
Fred0 -
I tried to reproduce a problem, but I failed. So I'm not sure I'm trying to reproduce it the right way. [quote="Fred Wolfe" wrote:
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On the color tab, it shows "background."
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There are two Color Editors. One in the 'Color' tab, another one in the 'Local Adjustment' tab. The 'Color' tab has no layer list, the 'Local Adjustments' tab has. Guess you are in the 'Local Adjustments' tab.
The two Color Editors have different behaviors. The one in the 'Color' tab is meant to be set to 'Adjust Selected Layer' = 'off', the one in the 'Local Adjustments' tab is meant to be set to 'Adjust Selected Layer' = 'on'. They behave accordingly. The setting can be changed per Color Editor, but changing it doesn't make sense.
When hitting '+' in the 'Advanced' tab of the color editor, I get a rainbow icon and 2 concentric, connected circles in the color wheel. It's because all I do will be global, with all colors, not a selected color range.
The 'color correction' picker works on the background. When used on a layer, color picks are shown when selecting the 'background' layer again.
The 'color correction on associated layer' picker works on any layer, including background. Color picks are shown in the active layer.
What's the raw file? Camera and format (full, m, s)?
Regards,
Hans0 -
Thanks for your helpful comments. They may have led me to a solution. There are so many complications that I can't be sure. But, your inability to reproduce my problem made me look for something that might be different in my set up. So I changed my workspace that I had used in version 8 and continued to use in version 9 to the default version 9 workspace. I noticed a some changes.
With the change in workspaces, both the color tab and the local tab will seemingly switch from background to layer 1 when selected by checking one of the boxes on the tool tab bar. What I noticed was that when I used my version 8 workspace and toggled between background and layer 1 in the local adjustments tab, the the check box changed (as it should), but in the version 9 default workspace the highlighting in the local adjustments correctly changed, too. However, when I used my version 8 workspace and toggled between background and layer 1, the the check box changed, but the highlighting DID NOT.
From this, I tentatively conclude that the problem may relate to different workspace characteristics between version 8 and 9 workspaces (or some included tools), and that these difference may have led to the problems I reported. I will remake my version 8 workspace into a 9 version and see if that solves the problem. I had assumed that since C1P9 instructions did not suggest remaking workspaces, that it was OK to continue with the version 8 space.0 -
Fred,
There is nothing wrong with using your original workspace(s) in theory BUT anything newly introduced will need to be added to them. Alternatively use the new default and then re-tune them to your preferences.
It's the same sort of requirement that one MIGHT have, although not compulsory, when new RAW conversion engines are introduced of the default values and options for tools are adjusted or extended. Changes to what you already have are not compulsory and you may not want to make use of them - but if you do you may need to spend a few minuted tweaking things to your liking.
I think what you have discovered seems to exactly fit the solution to your problem on the basis of what I have read.
Tool behaviour is also a little different but not so much that is needs to be totally relearned. The things that matter are covered in some V9 introductory videos.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Thanks, Grant. On further testing it appears that using version workspace takes care of the problem.
Fred0
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