Media One Pro and Yosemite
I just heard from tech support that MP is not supported for Yosemite—and there are some real problems. I can't use the import command, for example (MP crashes). Like many people here I've used MP since the early days and ALL of my photos are in MP catalogs. They're fully annotated and precisely organized. It would be a disaster to lose all this. So here's the big question: has Capture One 8 incorporated all of the annotation features of MP? I just learned from support that one of my favorite features in the world, transfer to folder, exists also in COP as 'move to folder'. It would be a relief to abandon MP at this point and use one program instead of two---again, if COP really does the same things. Thanks for any advice.
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CO8 does not the same things as MP 0 -
Well it's broken all right. I can open old catalogs but can't save anything. I too have several hundred catalogs in Media Pro and do all my subdivisions and sorting with this program as well as transfers for emailing, etc. I sent an email via the web site to PhaseOne and they responded very quickly asking how the failure happened. Hope they get on this quickly. I have faith in them... they'll fix it. 0 -
Hm ... admittedly I'm not using MP at the same scale as the other posters, but I still have a main catalog of 1 GB catalog (not media) size with roughly 24000 images. I don't experience any of the mentioned problems. I can add new images to the main catalog, and create new catalogs, rebuild thumbnails, set keywords and catalog sets. 0 -
Why do you have faith in them? Yosemite has been available for a long time and they still haven't changed anything. ☹️ 0 -
[quote="Nordlicht" wrote:
Media One Pro and Capture One are working together very badly. Keywords and star ratings are not synchronized at all. I guess there was no taking care of updating Media One Pro because of the catalog feature in Capture One. To me, this feature in Capture One doesn't replace Media One Pro at all.
CO8 does not the same things as MP0 -
Phase One developers thank you for keeping Media One Pro a viable multi platform DAM software. Please keep this software updated and do not let it continue to weaken and slow down. With the release of Apple Yosemite the helper application functionality broke! This is a HUGE loss in the functionality of the application. There is no other application that creates independent catalogs of media that can be used, searched and marked up without being connected to the media directly. This is a most important distinction. The iView original creation team invented a brilliant piece of software that has slowly weakened over time but still is best in class by far. Fixing the helper application functionality should not be a huge undertaking. In the long haul I would suggest that PhaseOne consider a Media One Pro version 2 update with the image review speed of Photo Mechanic and the cataloging speed and features of NeoFinder. Maybe there is room for a collaboration with these other companies. The resulting product would be absolutely awesome. 0 -
To avoid confusion among new readers... The software name is Media Pro, not "Media One Pro."
Also, while the loss of Helper Application functionality on Yosemite is bad, the problems with Media Pro run even deeper. Media Pro was broken on a Mac long before the release of Yosemite. For example, Media Pro version 1.4.1.67972 breaks the ability to sort Catalog Sets manually. See: "Manual Sort order in Catalog Sets." Because manual sort order of Catalog Sets is a requirement for many users, this flaw makes the software unusable for Mac users on Mavericks.0 -
I think you'll find Media Pro 2 is called Capture One 8... 0 -
[quote="NN248338UL" wrote:
... With the release of Apple Yosemite the helper application functionality broke! This is a HUGE loss in the functionality of the application.
Japp!
But you can solve the problem by doing this:
0. Stop running Media One Pro
1. Go to the folder "/Users/USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Phase One Media Pro/Plug-ins"
2. Locate the folder "Helper Applications"
3. Open the folder "Applications" or where your apps are located
5. Create a symbolic link of "Capture One Pro" into the folder "Helper Applications"
6. Create the symbolic links of your other favorit helper applications
7 Delete the file .DS_Store (it's invisible) in the folder "Helper Applications"
8. Open the info panel of the folder "Helper Applications" and protect the folder
That it is!
Unprotect the folder "Helper Applications" for changing its content and reprotect. Without write protection Media Pro will delete any content on startup.
Hope I could help you.
Best regards
Ralf0 -
thanks for the solution
i triad it many times on the OSX 10.10 it don't works 😕
the problem is MP must fixed to works with OSX 10.10 and with C1 8
and this is Phase One Problem ❗️0 -
Hallo "Nikon D700",
auf Deutsch:
Media Pro darf nicht gestartet sein.
1. Navigieren Sie zum Ordner "/Users/USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Phase One Media Pro/Plug-ins".
Hierzu im Finder den Befehlt [Umschalt + Befehl + G] aufrufen und dann als Ziel "~/Library" eingeben. Anschließend in den oben angegebenen Pfad navigieren.
2. In den Ordner "Helper Apllications" müssen nun die "Symbolic Links" gesetzt werden. Achtung "symbolic links" sind nicht die Aliase, die man sonst so erstellt. Mit einem einfachen "Alias" funktioniert das nicht. Ein "Symbolic Link" muss über das Terminal erstellt werden (Anleitungen im Netz). Man findet hierzu auch in im Netz fertige Automator-Sripte.
3. Nachdem man alle benötigten Links erstellt hat, muss man nun noch die unsichtbare Datei ".DS_Store" gelöscht werden. Ansonsten ist die Reihenfolge der angezeigten Hilfsprogramme fehlerhaft. Diese unsichtbare Datei kann über den Finder gesucht werden [Befehl + F], wobei als Suchkriterium "unsichtbar" angegeben werden muss. Leichter geht es mit einem Dateimanager (z.B. mucommander) der auch unsichtbare Dateien anzeigen kann.
4. Zum Schluss muss man noch das Verzeichnis "Helper Apllications" schützen, da Media Pro das Verzeichnis bei jedem Start entleeren würde. Dies ist übrigens kein Fehlverhalten von Mac OS X , sondern von Media Pro. Um das Verzeichnis zu schützen, muss man den Info-Dialog zum Verzeichnis aufrufen [Befehl + I] und das Häkchen bei "Geschützt" setzen.
Fertig. Der Workaround funktioniert einwandfrei mit Yosemite. Wichtig sind die "Symbolischen Links" anstelle der "Aliase" und der Schutz des Verzeichnisses.
Gruß Ralf0 -
Danke Ralf !
das Problem war die Symbolik link Funktion unter OSX 10.10. habe gemacht und tatsächlich funktioniert
Aber was nützt mir das wenn ich Bilder von MP nicht in C! öffnen oder anschauen kann ❓
man vergoldet einfach seine Zeit dahinter, diese Lösungen sollt Phase One zeit lange sich beschäftigen und nicht der Anwender !
für jeden verzögerten Tag macht Phase One ihren Image damit kaputt, wir warten seit Monate auf einer Lösung
und es ist unverschämt für solche Programme mit vollem Bugs an Kunde noch teuer zu verkaufen, ich meine C1 auch
seit 7 auf 8 kämpfen wir hier nur mit Bugs und Lösung.
ich glaube die haben keine Kontakt mehr zu den Welt google einfach mal bitte nach DMA Programme !
und schau dir was der Markt einfach anbietet,
Danke Nochmal0 -
Here's an interesting note -- iView itself, the original iView, not just Phase One Media Pro, seems to work ok in Yosemite for me.
The 'Helper App' thing does NOT work in either iView or Media Pro in Yosemite, but otherwise they seem fine. For me personally Helper App isn't that big since I set "default" apps in Finder anyway, as in jpg, tif, psd open in Photoshop by default, ai and eps in Illustrator. iView/Media Pro's "Open with Default Application" works with that.
Anyway, it's interesting to me that iView 3.1.3, from February 2007 still mostly works (thanks Yan and olde team!), and is still the best DAM around. Too bad more developers aren't interested in DAM...0 -
This is a pretty big issue and basically kills the use of Media Pro for me. I would have expected Phase One to fix such an obvious bug at no cost, but after quite some time there's still no fix. It looks like they expect me to upgrade to fix a major bug, and I'm not even convinced that the new version fixes this bug or will deal with any future bugs with Apple OS updates. I'm going to switch to Lightroom instead. 0 -
[quote="NN635028948167273015UL" wrote:
It looks like they expect me to upgrade to fix a major bug
Version 1.5 is a free update to current Media Pro users.
Highlights, version 1.5
This is a service release providing new options and camera support, changes in OS support and bug fixes.
Improvements- Supports rendering of Capture One 8.0.0 to 8.1.1 adjustments 

- The Phase One rendering engine now supports the same cameras as Capture One 
8.1.1 

- Introduces a new preference option under General called ‘Maintain item sort 
whenever possible’ to allow users to keep the old way of handling manual sort.
OS support- Support for 32-bit Operating Systems has been removed 

- Media Pro 1.5 supports Mac OS X 10.9 or 10.10, or Windows 7 (64-bit) or Windows 8 
(64-bit) only. 

Bug fixes for Mac/Windows 
- Fixes issues regarding ‘Open With’ context option under Windows and Mac 

- Fixes some issues where a warning called ‘NSGenericException’ would appear 

- Fixes issues regarding reading Metadata for certain cameras 

- Fixes several minor issues
Bug fixes for Mac- Fixes drag-and-drop functionality to exchange annotations with Sessions in Capture One 8
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Version 1.5 is a free update to current Media Pro users.
yes .... thanks Phase one a really great update !
i am very happy with it, now ..
1. Media Pro can now full talke or synchronize with Capture One.
2. the open with function tool in Media Pro works great only with authors vendor apps ... except Capture one.
3. Folder synchronize works just in time.
a bunch of Bugs moor ... don't bother how need that 😡
thanks and no comments moor 🤭0 -
[quote="NN635278569767553180UL" wrote:
[quote="Nordlicht" wrote:
Media One Pro and Capture One are working together very badly. Keywords and star ratings are not synchronized at all. I guess there was no taking care of updating Media One Pro because of the catalog feature in Capture One. To me, this feature in Capture One doesn't replace Media One Pro at all.
CO8 does not the same things as MP
You might have seemingly a slight problem with RTFM!
For sure you can synchronise keywords, IPTC tags, XMP tags, DC tags, alter TIFF tags everything you can red and write you are able to change!
... and usually all complainers I have met in various sources/forums did stop to climb the learning curve until its very end because "ah o.k. now I know and that's it".
But be serious? Did you not think by yourself, that a piece of software that only is able to the things alliterated above will behold at a price of around $150? Can't it be that there might be a lot below the impression of common knowledge, that makes MP to a tool, valuable its price?
Yes it does.
And I will help you little bit:
1. MP is a cataloguing Programm, that primarily give users the ability to read out and write into allowed tag containing metadata.
2. This procedure end up in building up a file aka catalogue wherein metadata and additional data and previews are stored and ordered.
3. You can use this order to manipulate filenames, move files, delete them aka handle files.
4. The catalogue is supposed to be distributed to others using MP as well as to others not owning MP (there MP catalogue reader is free and offers limited editing functions UPON THE CATALOGUE as well.)
5. Everytime you use the catalogue to e.g. drill through your collections of files(pictures) all metadata aligned to the files(pictures) are present, even if you examine the content of file/picture of interest. You can even sort, select build sub-catalogues etc. within that environment)
6. Thats how a distributable catalogue should work. Usually there are no files/pictures stored within that catalogue because of ... hence the size?
and now come the water:
Unless you SYNCHRONISE the METADATA stored within the CATALOGUE within your FILES/PICTURES (embedded XMP/IPTC/DC) or within XMP-sidefiles (and for sure taking care to make your working application able to read them) you will never ever be able to view these metadata e.g. with COne, regardless which version you use (I started with 3.7.4) and noon of all was able to read them out!
WHY?
Because the data do only reside inside the catalogue, not within/attached to the file/picture.
For sure: There do exist some culprits regarding dedicated meta tags like ISO values, but this a minor concern because the ISO data are stored within other tags the can be used instead.
And some more tips regarding performance and usability.
Synchronisation between MP and COne is not the best and the more I started to try the faster I stopped from it:
MP is am organising and managing tool for media - COne is a renderer and raw manipulating software.
MP uses and manipulates the metatags, COne uses and manipulates data tags.
Those two worlds do not relate to another - they are disjunct. (What on hell needs to be synchronised from COne to MP as a result of rendering pictures?)
I use it as a "semi cul-de-sac": Managing the files and metadata, stars keywords etc. ---> building sub-catalogs out of master catalogue ---> exporting sub-catalog of interest ---> importing sub-catalogue into COne CATALOGUE, not session!. If metadata are synced, stars and keywords and everything manipulated within MP are visible (and editable, but mind the re-sync!) within COne.0 -
MP is am organising and managing tool for media - COne is a renderer and raw manipulating software.
MP uses and manipulates the metatags, COne uses and manipulates data tags.
Those two worlds do not relate to another - they are disjunct. (What on hell needs to be synchronised from COne to MP as a result of rendering pictures?)
Capture One have a very poor DAM !
many users are thinking that Media Pro is the supplement for it , thats way ....
with a free license like Digikam you get moor power DAM than Lightroom or Media Pro.0
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