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Local Adjustments Not Working

photos1
Just installed 8.02 but when I paint on a local mask and then try to adjust the exposure it pays no attention to the mask it still just adjusts the whole image? My mask opacity is 100% It's always worked great for me in 7.xx?

Thanks!
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  • Andrew Lawrence
    [quote="photos1" wrote:
    Just installed 8.02 but when I paint on a local mask and then try to adjust the exposure it pays no attention to the mask it still just adjusts the whole image? My mask opacity is 100% It's always worked great for me in 7.xx?

    Thanks!


    Give this a try, try setting your workspace back to default under the file menu: Window > Workspace > Default
    Maybe it's confused what tab it's in?
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  • SFA
    If you have just started to use V8 it's worth appreciating that there were a few subtle changes to the way layers are selected and activated in 8 compared to 7.

    The simplest thing to do is open the Layer tool tab where all the tools that can be applied to layers are gathered together and you have a full window to control the creation of layers and their type. You still need to activate the appropriate brush for your purpose and there are still more direct ways to mess with layers but seeing the working set laid out before you makes it much easier to see what is going on. Recommended.

    HTH.

    Grant
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  • photos1
    Thanks! I went to the 'local adjustments' tool tab and the exposure control works! I'm still clueless why it doesn't work when I apply the change on the 'exposure' tab' but it's working!?

    I couldn't find the 'layers' tab?
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  • SFA
    [quote="photos1" wrote:
    Thanks! I went to the 'local adjustments' tool tab and the exposure control works! I'm still clueless why it doesn't work when I apply the change on the 'exposure' tab' but it's working!?

    I couldn't find the 'layers' tab?


    Layers would be the same as local adjustments. Interchangeable terminology in effect - and a little less to type!

    If you are not in the dedicated tool tab you need to do a little more work to select and activate the tools top work on the local adjustment layer rather than the "Background".

    Iirc there is a video tutorial somewhere that covers this but poking around with the tools and the settings options is probably the best way to become familiar with what can be done.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    At first sight, it is indeed a bit irritating that tools like exposure, color etc. from the respective tool tab affect the background, even if a layer other than the background layer is selected. Especially if you make the layers tool a floating tool window in order to switch between layers.

    The key things to remember is:

    1. If you use a tool on any tool tab other than local adjustments, it affects the background layer (=whole image)
    2. If you want to use a tool for a layer (masked area), go to the local adjustments tool tab and choose from the default tools in this tab.

    (if you add a tool to the local adjustments tool tab manually, it affects the background layer (so I don't do that, to not get irritated further))


    3. A tool that is used in the local adjustments tool tab for any layer other than the background might work a little different (e.g. the noise reduction or sharpening). it is apparently a different tool.

    (even if it looks equally, like the exposure tool, it is a different tool, e.g. If you drag the exposure tool to the screen to make it a floating tool, the tool dragged from the LA tab behaves differently than if dragged from a regular tab)


    4. If you add the layers tool to a regular tool tab, the tools on this tab still are "background tools"
    5. If you selected the backgound layer and start to brush/erase, Capture One switches to the top-most layer automatically (you can change the order of the layers)

    If you have enough space on your screen, here's a trick:

    [color=#408080:336gm52y]Make the local adjustment tools floating[/color:336gm52y]

    >goto the LA tool tab
    >drag every default tool from this tab onto the screen to make it a floating tool (you might want to "bind" it to the floating layers tool)
    >add every tool again to the LA tool tab (you then basically have the LA tools twice, as a floating tool tab AND at the regurlar LA tool tab)
    > if you switch between the layers in the "floating LA tool tab", the floating tools affect the selected layer, as you would expect

    (only those floating tools which were dragged from the LA tool tab)



    Edit:
    You can also go to menu > window > create floating tool, choose the tool and then in the tool the small button "..." shows a menu item "Adjust selected layer" (for those tools which work on layers). So, e.g. the sharpening tool on local adjustments tab is not a different tool but a different tool "mode"


    Wishes:
    - It would be great if the LA tools could be distinguished visually from the "regular" tools (on a permanent basis)
    - But it would be even greater if the LA tools would be somehow visually highlighted, if and only if a layer different from the background is selected.
    - It would be nice to have a possibity to hide/show or expand/collapse the "floating tool tab" with one key stroke or click, as I do not have sufficient space (single monitor).
    - It also would be nice to have the option to make any tool tab floating as a whole, without the need to drag each tool individually
    - It also would be nice having the layers tool resizable, as I sometimes have numerous layers and don't like to use the scroll bar

    Hope this helps
    Marc
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  • Drew Altdo
    All the tools are the same, and any tool in the Local Adjustments Tab is simply a duplicate of the same tool elsewhere.
    The only difference is that these tool have the option below turned on.

    http://i59.tinypic.com/2qimk44.png

    So, ANY tool in ANY tab that can be used with Layers can be turned on/off at your whim to effect only the selected layer.

    This is beneficial for white balance or luminance balance.
    ex.
    - Select the layer (drop down or in the Local Adjustments menu)
    - Select the White Balance tool
    - Adjust and the entire image will adjust (despite the layer being selected)
    - Turn on this feature for that tool and adjust again, now only the Layer mask area will be adjusted.

    You can make two duplicates of any tool anywhere you want, then turn this on for one but not the other. This will offer a quick workflow for balancing adjustments.
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    Thanks, Drew.

    I just noticed that option, but you explained it very well!

    I also noticed the small brush icon right after the tool name, which high-lights the mode the tool is in.

    Perfect!

    All the best
    Marc
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