Need clarifications on Color Management in C1Pro
I am confused about color management in C1Pro 8.x. I cannot find clear and detailed information about Color management in C1pro.
I work with Nikon D4s RAW images with a calibrated wide-gamut monitor Eizo CG277 (99% of Adobe RGB). I made the switch from the now deprecated Nikon Capture NX2 software where my working color space was RGB Prophoto.
In the C1 Pro 8.x Help file, it says "A RAW file is assigned a color profile once Capture One has established which camera model has been used. The RAW data is then translated to the internal working color space of Capture One and it is here that edits can be applied."
Then, in the section on "Set a permanent color space", it says "The default setting displays the image in the viewer in the color space that is selected in the highlighted Process Recipe."
I thought I would be working in the internal color space of C1Pro both at the viewing and editing stage. Then I would only see the color space defined in the process recipe when I enabled soft-proofing and/or performed output conversion via the Process Recipe.
Can anybody please help me clarify the following :
- How do I keep the internal working color space of C1Pro when I view and edit my photos.
- How do I enable/disable the soft-proofing with a specific color profile?
- How do I enable/display the color space selected in the process recipe?
My goal is to keep the internal working color space of C1 Pro at both the viewing and editing stage until I make the decision to soft-proof with an RGB color space or icc color profile.
Also, can anybody point me to online tutorials or even an advanced course on Color Management with C1Pro ?
Many thanks
Philippe Rouquet
I work with Nikon D4s RAW images with a calibrated wide-gamut monitor Eizo CG277 (99% of Adobe RGB). I made the switch from the now deprecated Nikon Capture NX2 software where my working color space was RGB Prophoto.
In the C1 Pro 8.x Help file, it says "A RAW file is assigned a color profile once Capture One has established which camera model has been used. The RAW data is then translated to the internal working color space of Capture One and it is here that edits can be applied."
Then, in the section on "Set a permanent color space", it says "The default setting displays the image in the viewer in the color space that is selected in the highlighted Process Recipe."
I thought I would be working in the internal color space of C1Pro both at the viewing and editing stage. Then I would only see the color space defined in the process recipe when I enabled soft-proofing and/or performed output conversion via the Process Recipe.
Can anybody please help me clarify the following :
- How do I keep the internal working color space of C1Pro when I view and edit my photos.
- How do I enable/disable the soft-proofing with a specific color profile?
- How do I enable/display the color space selected in the process recipe?
My goal is to keep the internal working color space of C1 Pro at both the viewing and editing stage until I make the decision to soft-proof with an RGB color space or icc color profile.
Also, can anybody point me to online tutorials or even an advanced course on Color Management with C1Pro ?
Many thanks
Philippe Rouquet
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Hi Philippe,
Why would you like to work with an internal mystic unknown color profile (C1 internal) for you edits? From my (skin-)deep understanding of color profiles, I think you would rather like to see the color profile suitable to the target device, that might be AdobeRBG for your edits, as your monitor support this to 99%. This way you can assess your edits on your monitor then.
You might also switch to sRBG at some point if developing for web.
Menu>View>Soft proof>Selected recipe or choose implicitly a color profile
Hope this helps
Regards,
BeO
Edit: You also might want to check the rendering intent (menu>Edit>Preferences>Color), you should notice no difference though in the viewer, if you set AdobeRBG, as the color should not be out of gamut of your monitor
I don't have a link to Capture One and color management but I can recommend
http://www.color-management-guide.com/0 -
Philippe,
I think I have to correct myself, as your monitor is capable to show colours even outside the AdobeRBG gamut / colours.
See the white lines here
(whereas black lines mean: not covered by monitor / outside colours space definition)
Hence, if you edit with soft-proofing enabled with an AdobeRGB profile, depening on the Rendering Intent setting the out of (AdobeRGB) gamut colous would be remapped to AdobeRGB thus not using the full capacity of your monitor.
So, for your edits it might be benifical to see the image in the internal C1 gamut, provided it covers more than AdobeRBG, which I assume.
Hence, it would be interesting what colour space C1 is using internally!
Maybe the answer to your first question is Menu>View>Soft proof>No proof profile
Cheers
BeO0
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