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Why can't I see my exported files from within C1?

michaelbs
Okay. New to C1 7 Pro. Can't believe how much better it renders my Canon 5DII and III raw files compared to LR5. Wonderful!!
I started a session (not a catalog). Problably a stupid beginner question but I can't get my head this one:

When I set up the export dialogue to export a PSD file to photoshop I can't see the exported PSD from within the C1 Library System Folder. Even though Mac Finder shows me that the image is there. Why?

When I tell C1 to export a Tiff file to photoshop, edit the photo in Photoshop, save and close, then I can see the tiff file in C1 but I can't see the editing done in Photoshop. (I can see the edits from within LR5 so I know I didn't screw up).

Am I doing something wrong? I want to see the before/after photoshop edits from within Capture One.
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  • Drew Altdo
    [quote="michaelbs" wrote:
    ... I can't see the exported PSD from within the C1 Library System Folder. Even though Mac Finder shows me that the image is there. Why?


    Capture One does not support PSD files, it is a RAW Workflow software.

    The software can see most TIFF and JPEG files as we built the software to show you a TIFF or JPEG that your camera might shoot natively (although almost none have ever used .TIFF).
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  • michaelbs
    [quote="Drew" wrote:
    [quote="michaelbs" wrote:
    ... I can't see the exported PSD from within the C1 Library System Folder. Even though Mac Finder shows me that the image is there. Why?


    Capture One does not support PSD files, it is a RAW Workflow software.

    The software can see most TIFF and JPEG files as we built the software to show you a TIFF or JPEG that your camera might shoot natively (although almost none have ever used .TIFF).


    I understand. But that doesn't answer (I think) the second scenario in my question:
    When I tell C1 to export a Tiff file to photoshop, edit the photo in Photoshop, save and close, then I can see the tiff file in C1 but I can't see the editing done in Photoshop. (I can see the edits from within LR5 so I know I didn't screw up).

    Shouldn't I be able to see the photoshop edited Tiff file with the photoshop edits visible (it's a flattened tiff) in C1?
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  • Drew Altdo
    [quote="michaelbs" wrote:

    Shouldn't I be able to see the photoshop edited Tiff file with the photoshop edits visible (it's a flattened tiff) in C1?


    Perhaps, but that's certainly not a feature or design intention of Capture One.
    Try zooming into the TIFF 100%, if you see the changes then the issue is simply that Capture One isn't updating the Proxy Preview file as again what you are trying to do is outside of the design intention of the software.
    If you want you can try to right click on the image in Viewer using the standard "Select" cursor and choose to "Regenerate Preview". You can also try this through the File menu.

    To understand what you are seeing, it's important to remember the workflow you are using is NOT what Capture One is meant for. It is meant for you to Open an image, edit it and then export it. Editing in another software and trying to see those edits in Capture One is not within the scope of the software.
    When a file is first opened in Capture One, the software makes a small preview for the file. That File is then referenced and only updated when changes are made to the file in Capture One. Changes made outside of Capture One have no way of notifying the software that it should update this preview.
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="michaelbs" wrote:
    Shouldn't I be able to see the photoshop edited Tiff file with the photoshop edits visible (it's a flattened tiff) in C1?

    Only if you re-import it as a "new" file.
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  • Drew Altdo
    [quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:

    Only if you re-import it as a "new" file.


    Not necessarily. Again, its just the Proxy Preview file. So regenerating the Proxy should do it if there is a discernible difference in file size or something. Otherwise with a Catalog you'll have to restart and with a Session you may need to delete the old Proxy manually.
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  • michaelbs
    Zooming to 100% did the trick.
    Regenerating preview didn't help.

    Ok. If I want to compare photoshop additional edits with the C1 Raw edits I basically need to open a different software.
    That's all right. as long as I understand the limitations of the software and know It's not my ignorance causing the problem I'm good.

    Thanks for your help.
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Drew" wrote:
    Not necessarily.

    Doesn't that clash with:
    Changes made outside of Capture One have no way of notifying the software that it should update this preview.

    Drew?

    If Capture One can't "see" the changes to a file made by another piece of software (which is what you're saying, isn't it?) how can it also do what Michael's asking about?
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  • Drew Altdo
    [quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
    [quote="Drew" wrote:
    Not necessarily.

    Doesn't that clash with:
    Changes made outside of Capture One have no way of notifying the software that it should update this preview.

    Drew?

    If Capture One can't "see" the changes to a file made by another piece of software (which is what you're saying, isn't it?) how can it also do what Michael's asking about?


    No.
    The "Not Necessarily" was in reference to the your assertion that you MUST re-import. You don't necessarily need to reimport but you need to regenerate the preview in order for Capture One to see the changes. It's not designed to see the changes, so you have to FORCE the regeneration of the preview.

    So, you don't NECESSARILY need to reimport.
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