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Renaming Variants?

Leon Droby
I'm in the process of demoing Capture One. My question has to do with Variants.

I understand the new vs clone variant. What I'm wondering is, if I create a variant, is there any way to give it a unique name? It looks like C1 groups all the variants in the browser under the same name.

I'm thinking I may want to create a variant for each different paper type I'll print to. In LR, each virtual copy would have a unique name. But in C1, I'll see multiple variants in the browser with no way to distinguish between them (short of opening each one and looking in the details to see what's different).

Thanks.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    If you make more than one variant of an image, they are still variants of a single image. There are just two (or more) sets of instructions about what adjustments to apply to the raw file, the original raw file just has one name, and C1 doesn't apply different names to them. However, here is something you could try. You can apply different colour tags to the variants. So all the variants you want to use with Paper Type 1 could have, say, a blue tag, and all the variants you want to use with Paper Type 2 could have, say, a yellow tag. You can sort or filter images according to their colour tag, so you could for instance view just the blue tag variants for Paper Type 1. Does that help?

    Ian
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  • Leon Droby
    Thanks for the reply.

    I'm already using the color labels so I don't think that would workout that's along the lines of what I was thinking.

    If I can't rename variants I'm thinking along the lines of exporting a tiff using a recipe that includes the ICC profile of my printer/paper combination. This would give me something unique that's easily recognizable.

    I do feel like I'm making this harder than I should.

    I'm curious how others handle printing from C1 and different printer/paper profiles.
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  • SFA
    You could try keywording for the paper type - each variant edit instruction set can have its own keywords.

    Also, recently introduced, is some functionality for selection and processing by what I will call "variant position in the list of variants". Not something I have, as yet, spent much time looking at. In theory it would seem to offer some option it you always put specific variant edits into the same place in a file's variant variations.

    For output you can make a process recipe for each output type and include output location and file naming "rules" as part of that process definition. That may also be helpful in some way.


    Grant
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  • Leon Droby
    Thanks for the replies.

    One thing I'm thinking of trying that I saw in a recent tutorial is to use a local adjustment for each printing profile.

    I can have my main image with all it's adjustments. This would be my basic corrected image. Then have a local adjustment for lets say a glossy paper using that ICC profile and the adjustments needed for a quality glossy print. Have a second local adjustment for a matt paper using that ICC profile and the adjustment needed for a quality matt print. With both local adjustments off, I'll see the straight image. And turn either one on depending on how I want to print.

    I'd open a new variant for major changes (that I'd easily notice in the browser) like color vs black and white.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    But as far as I know you can't apply an ICC profile as a local adjustment.

    Ian
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  • SFA
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    But as far as I know you can't apply an ICC profile as a local adjustment.

    Ian


    I don't think the ICC part matters for what leon is thinking about.

    It's more the preference for adjusting contrast and sharpness and things like that to suite the TYPE of output media (Glossy vs. Matt paper for example). Quick tweaks to the same edit. Switch the appropriate layer on and off.


    Grant
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  • Leon Droby
    Correct.

    But I'm also thinking I could go into the Output module and change the ICC Profile field from AdobeRCB to a profile for my printer/paper. Wouldn't this give me a more accurate image of my printed output on the screen?

    It gets a little tricky comparing this to the original though.
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  • HansB
    [quote="LeonD" wrote:
    Correct.

    But I'm also thinking I could go into the Output module and change the ICC Profile field from AdobeRCB to a profile for my printer/paper. Wouldn't this give me a more accurate image of my printed output on the screen?

    It gets a little tricky comparing this to the original though.



    The paper profile is used to match the print output on a specific paper to what's on the screen, not to make the screen output to match the print. The paper profile is to be used in the print dialog. Just create print profiles in your printer dialog for the different papers, if your driver supports that.

    Depending on the printer, ink and paper, viewing in the paper profile will give you a very 'interesting', colorized look. It will show you what the printer needs to do to produce, for example, a solid yellow, not the solid yellow you want to print. You'll lose the control over your colors.

    For dedicated sharpness settings and such things, either use variants, or follow Grant's advise on layers.


    Regards,
    Hans
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