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Color adjustments not working at all?

sandro.franchi
Hi, I've just upgraded to 9 and any changes I'm trying to make via the Color Editor (both as global or local) are not working at all, they just do nothing... ☹️ Even when I choose to "Create a mask from selection", a new empty adjustment layer is created but empty...

I'm working with an upgraded session.

Thanks,
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  • Christian Gruner
    Please contact our Support Team right away.
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  • sandro.franchi
    Already reported. It happens only with my upgraded sessions, not with new ones...
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  • sandro.franchi
    [quote="Christian Gruner" wrote:
    Please contact our Support Team right away.


    My case number is 205221 and I've no answer yet.
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    Did you click upgrade engine button in base settings?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Andriy.Okhrimets" wrote:
    upgrade engine?


    Hmmm... could not find this in settings - I've set "Standard Engine" to C1 9!

    Oliver
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  • Ian Wilson
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    [quote="Olyver" wrote:
    [quote="Andriy.Okhrimets" wrote:
    upgrade engine?


    Hmmm... could not find this in settings - I've set "Standard Engine" to C1 9!

    Oliver

    Yes but existing images in the upgraded session won't be automatically changed to the new engine. (That is a good thing because changing the engine can spoil the effect of your existing carefully crafted adjustments. I generally create a cloned variant before I try updating the engine for an image, because it might get spoiled and you can't change it back.That way I've still got a variant that uses the old engine.)

    If you want to upgrade the engine for an existing image, go to the base characteristics tool in the colour tab. If it is currently a previous engine for that image it will say Engine Capture One 8 and there will be an upgrade button. If the image is already on the new engine it will say Engine Capture One 9, and there will be no upgrade button.

    Ian
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  • sizzlingbadger
    I have just experienced the same issue, on my old Nikon D50 images I can't even get the colour dropper to pick a colour. I tried the v8 and v9 engines. Its fine on my D800 and Sony A7II images.
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  • Gillian Carroll
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    [quote="Olyver" wrote:
    [quote="Andriy.Okhrimets" wrote:
    upgrade engine?


    Hmmm... could not find this in settings - I've set "Standard Engine" to C1 9!

    Oliver

    Yes but existing images in the upgraded session won't be automatically changed to the new engine. (That is a good thing because changing the engine can spoil the effect of your existing carefully crafted adjustments. I generally create a cloned variant before I try updating the engine for an image, because it might get spoiled and you can't change it back.That way I've still got a variant that uses the old engine.)

    If you want to upgrade the engine for an existing image, go to the base characteristics tool in the colour tab. If it is currently a previous engine for that image it will say Engine Capture One 8 and there will be an upgrade button. If the image is already on the new engine it will say Engine Capture One 9, and there will be no upgrade button.

    Ian


    So if I have my catalogue in 9 but don't upgrade (so keeping all the 8 editing), any new pictures imported I would have to upgrade before editing, so using 9 for editing ?

    Sorry if I have mis read what you mean ! I am having trouble getting my head round the do and don'ts !!

    Many thanks.
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  • Ian Wilson
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    No - new pictures will go straight onto the new Version 9 engine. But old ones only change to the new engine if you change them, and that is a good thing, to preserve the effects of your work in them.

    Ian
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  • Gillian Carroll
    Thanks Ian.

    Think I will play safe for now with 8 version and not upgrade the catalogue to the new engine just for the sake of it. I know I have used contrast a bit on earlier editing (didn't quite understand all the effects !), and been advised these could look quite different in 9 if I upgrade them !
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Hi Ian!

    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    If you want to upgrade the engine for an existing image, go to the base characteristics tool in the colour tab. If it is currently a previous engine for that image it will say Engine Capture One 8 and there will be an upgrade button. If the image is already on the new engine it will say Engine Capture One 9, and there will be no upgrade button.


    Thanks a lot for this clarification - now I've got it! 😄

    Oliver
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  • sandro.franchi
    Yes, I've updated the engine to 9. It seems to happen only when the color profile. Doesn't happens with "standard" ICC profiles, it happens with custom defined ICC profiles. I've noticed this trying to make color selections with some X-Rite targets which I've used to create custom ICC profiles.
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  • dee jjjaaaa
    [quote="sandro.franchi" wrote:
    Yes, I've updated the engine to 9. It seems to happen only when the color profile. Doesn't happens with "standard" ICC profiles, it happens with custom defined ICC profiles. I've noticed this trying to make color selections with some X-Rite targets which I've used to create custom ICC profiles.


    for C1 Color Editor to work your input profile (camera profile) must be an icc/icm container with A2B0 tag = LUT table... if you create matrix + trc (gamma or table) profile then it will work in C1, but Color Editor will not work - it needs that LUT table to operate on... may be somebody can write an utility that translates (to ensure identical color transform) for example matrix + trc profile with cieXYZ PCS into a regular LUT (with A2B0) profile with cieLAB PCS that C1 wants for its Color Editor to operate...

    if you need masking using Color Editor then (I suggest - I did not test - but it shall work, why not) you can try to use the following, switch temp. to a regular C1 OEM profile, create whatever you need mask-wise with Color Editor for some adjustment layer, switch back to your custom input profile...
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  • dee jjjaaaa
    [quote="sandro.franchi" wrote:
    Yes, I've updated the engine to 9. It seems to happen only when the color profile. Doesn't happens with "standard" ICC profiles, it happens with custom defined ICC profiles. I've noticed this trying to make color selections with some X-Rite targets which I've used to create custom ICC profiles.


    just in case if you need - I wrote a small Matlab script, few lines that will convert a simple matrix + trc (gamma or table) profile with PCS = cieXYZ into a LUT profile with PCS = cieXYZ so that C1 color editor will be fully functional...
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