Reasons WHY you use CaptureOne 6?
Tell me please, if you don't mind list of reasons why you use C1 Pro, what are the strong and weak sides of this software.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
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Oh, if only I wasn't "just" using Capture One Express..!
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Hi,
some reasons: a) straightforward workflow; b) output results; c) ease of getting outputs for different needs (recipients); d) not being forced to adopt a specific file organization scheme; e) powerful local adjustments tool0 -
Things I like are the following
1. Local adjustment
2. advance color adjustment, including local color adjustment
3. capture one pilot
3. better removal of chromatic abberations
highly customized interface
4. less fiddling with sliders compared to lightroom 4.
5. focus preview.
6. Wide variety of soft proofing
7. custom ICC.
8. better nef processing.
9. RGB level and curves adjustment
The things I don't like with capture one 6 pro are the following:
1. no built in DAM,similar to LR. You need to purchase media pro (which is fucking unstable). So at the moment I am using Photomechanic.
2. Opening tiff files to photoshop, it will automatically flatten it, so there will no layers that I have created and saved.
3. Keywords, color rating and meta data does not sync with Media Pro v1.3
4. literally buggy and darn slow.
5. No local adjustment for white balance, which is similar to lightroom 4.
6. RAW files cannot be exported as a smart object.
7. literally expensive than other RAW software0 -
Havent you mind up your mind if you are gonna ditch c1 and completely migrate to Lightroom or ACR? 0 -
For me the + sides are :
1. Speed
2. Skin tones
3. Architecture correction
4. Workflow
5. Spot removal
6. Local layers on the raw file
7. Styles/presets and possible to save personal styles
Things I don't like or think could be better
1. Linux Support (but not hung on on that one)
2. Options to easily disable only one edit action anywhere in the workflow (darktable on linux does that really well)
3. Some issues with sessions at times
4. Not that obvious to go back to an old set of edits and find the adjustments to change then to the liking of the client
Overall worth every penny0 -
[quote="realistgva" wrote:
For me the + sides are :
Things I don't like or think could be better
2. Options to easily disable only one edit action anywhere in the workflow (darktable on linux does that really well)
3. Some issues with sessions at times
Overall worth every penny
I'm very much in agreement with this.
Sessions seem to be much better in V6 than V5 though. More stable.
The concept of switching adjustments on and off, as provided in the local adjustments, is something I have been used to using with a previous favourite editor application that was, conceptually, very similar in many ways to C1. It just went a lot further and could offer the option to turn a particular instance of an edit action on and off to check the differences - and do so anywhere in the stack of adjustment tools. THere should be no reason why that would be restricted to local adjustments. I appreciate that NOT creating a local adjustment mask and inverting the selection offers a similar result ... but then there seem to be a limited number of local adjustment layers that we can play with.
Even in the number of layers was increased it's a bit arcane to have to create an adjustment in reverese whan a direct application must be possible since the result is, in most cases, already achievable.
However C1 does seem to have some very smart thinking behind the scenes to make the intended adjustments appear without having to specify every twist and turn of a potentially complex combination of tweaks.
Grant Perkins0 -
In terms of culling/selecting images co is slower than lr. Another that I forgot to mention shortcut key is horrible. There is no short key for multi view and other view in capture one. I hope to see this in co 7. 0 -
[quote="rave81" wrote:
In terms of culling/selecting images co is slower than lr.
Hmmm, have a reversed experience. Maybe my limited experience with Lr compared to CO6 is playing a role here or vice versa.[quote="rave81" wrote:
Another that I forgot to mention shortcut key is horrible. There is no short key for multi view and other view in capture one. I hope to see this in co 7.
It is already there in CO6 but you have to make it (to your liking). Every option that is in the menu of CO6 you can assign a shortcut to if it does not already exist. The created shortcut also shows in the menu.0 -
After using Adobe Lightroom 4.1 for two weeks, I concluded that Lightroom 4.1 is more efficient than the combination of Capture one 6 Pro and Media Pro, in terms of cataloging, dam and processing the RAW images. In terms of color well lightroom 4.1 is very close to the performance of capture one 6 pro, however capture one 6 pro has its edge,since it has local adjustment for color.
Phaseone needs drastic improvement in media Pro & capture one in terms of efficiency and stability, because of this im thinking to abandon phaseone softwares, since lightroom 4.1 is tightly integrated with photoshop and culling 3000 wedding images, adding rating, cataloging and adding keywords are easier and faster in lightroom 4.1 than in capture one and media.
in a day media Pro crashed 10 to 20 times in addition it doesn't sync the meta data and adding keywords are pain in the ass. So how does using capture one 6 pro and media pro is faster, when it is very unstable?0 -
[quote="rave81" wrote:
So how does using capture one 6 pro and media pro is faster, when it is very unstable?
To be fair, all you said was:In terms of culling/selecting images co is slower than lr.
No mention of Media Pro or the other issues you've raised, just "Lightroom is quicker for culling and selecting".
I agree with Paul that in terms of simply working through and culling a set of images, Capture One is quicker.0 -
Here is my complete workflow Media Pro (for selecting & cataloging) -> Capture one 6 Pro ->Photoshop -> Media Pro (for ouput). my workflow would be efficient if Media Pro does not crash always. in a day suddenly crashes between 20 to 30 times. In addition it doesn't sync the meta data, even though I setup both media Pro and capture one based on the video tutorials in phaseone.com
So what other DAM software out there which is stable and fast?0 -
I use digikan on linux for all the import sorting and like you for the final exports to destination format
there is apparently a windows version not sure how stable it is http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/378
The one that I hear most about from windows users is Photo Mechanic http://www.camerabits.com/site/
no idea how it works have never tired it but seems pretty good0 -
I purchased LR v4.1, but was unhappy with a lot of DAM features and some GUI invconvenience. Then I purchased C1 v6.4 with MP v1.2, but do not use MP any longer for digital photos due to instability and very weak synchronization features. Finally I purchased IDI v5.1 (Idimager) and use C1 with it for all RAWs and JPGs.. But MP alone is still very useful for my media file collection.
The combination of IDI with C1 works for me like a charm, because IDI is the DAM master and C1 is just used for advanced editing. With a special configuration for C1 (forum.phaseone.com/En/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=12276) I managed to store all C1 files in ONE and SEPARATED directory. That is perfect for my file management and backup philosophy.
Best Regards from Joseph0 -
Here are raw image processed in Lightroom 4.1 and capture one 6.4.1 pro. Which one do you like most?
Media pro is a headache, at the moment I am trialling photomechanic access and the idi manger.
With the idi manager does it automatically sync the metadata?0 -
@pHASEZERO
DID YOUR PURCHASED LIGHTROOM 4.1?0 -
[quote="rave81" wrote:
Here are raw image processed in Lightroom 4.1 and capture one 6.4.1 pro. Which one do you like most?
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I don't see a link to the images.
BTW, I use CO 90% of the time, and LR 4 10% of the time.
As discussed elsewhere, I tend to use LR for my high iso (more noise) shots, and shots containing both v bright and v dark areas where I could not take 3 controlled exposures for hdr.
Unlike a few others here, I use Media Pro for my images, and it works fine for me; though I wish it was faster in loading a new set of images.0 -
[quote="rave81" wrote:
@pHASEZERO: DID YOUR PURCHASED LIGHTROOM 4.1?
Yes, I did. What I disliked most with LR v4.1 is:- Missing drag&drop function for images (e.g. JPG) to 3rd party applications (e.g. Powerpoint or professional Rendering/MediaShow software). This is a show stopper for LR.
- Missing support for XMP files with JPG.
- A lot of additional addons are required in LR to make it more useful. Of course the LR community and support are good. But I had to look for addons already after one week and finding them showed me, that a lot of people need extensions, which puts a bad light on original LR features.
- With LR I need too much the mouse and fast control with keyboard is more difficult.
- ... and much more ...
The GUI and navigation with C1 v6.4 is for me much more intuitive and faster than "cumbersome" LR.
Regards from Joseph0 -
[quote="PhaseZero" wrote:
A lot of additional addons are required in LR to make it more useful.
Confused about this, Joseph - I can't think of anything that Capture One can do natively that Lr can't do natively.
I've used Lr for years, and in all that time I've needed exactly no add-ons - not one - in order to do with it what I can do in Capture One.
I can't say the same in the other direction. Lr does a lot that Capture One can't do, before add-ons come into the equation: and it has to be said, the ability to use plug-ins in Lr increases its capabilities by an order of magnitude.0 -
Im abandoning all phaseone softwares and migrating my workflow in Lightroom 4, since it is more efficient, high dynamic range is better, especially with the new sliders in lightroom 4, however I will miss the color local adjustment in Capture One6... Anyway I have to import all of my images to Photoshop cs6 to do local adjustment. 0 -
[quote="rave81" wrote:
Im abandoning all phaseone softwares and migrating my workflow in Lightroom 4
Bye.0 -
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
[quote="PhaseZero" wrote:
A lot of additional addons are required in LR to make it more useful.
Confused about this, Joseph - I can't think of anything that Capture One can do natively that Lr can't do natively.
I've used Lr for years, and in all that time I've needed exactly no add-ons - not one - in order to do with it what I can do in Capture One. I can't say the same in the other direction. Lr does a lot that Capture One can't do, before add-ons come into the equation: and it has to be said, the ability to use plug-ins in Lr increases its capabilities by an order of magnitude.
Hello Keith,
my statement about addons with LR was certainly my specific requirement for flexibility. Soon after first installation of LR I had to install/purchase a couple of addons (extended-search, metadata-viewer, video-assets, opendirectly, redate, file-browser, configuration-setting, ...) because I was unhappy with a couple of limitations and usability of LR. After a while I gave up with LR. With MediaPro, CaptureOne (and IDimager!) I never missed any add-on. May be I was expecting too much DAM features in LR. You are right, that a living add-on community is great, but it shows also certain gaps or at least some diverse user requirements.
Regards from Joseph
P.S.: What I use with IDI are more and more scripts (renaming, exports, ...), but this is something else than add-ons.0 -
[quote="PhaseZero" wrote:
[quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
[quote="PhaseZero" wrote:
A lot of additional addons are required in LR to make it more useful.
Confused about this, Joseph - I can't think of anything that Capture One can do natively that Lr can't do natively.
I've used Lr for years, and in all that time I've needed exactly no add-ons - not one - in order to do with it what I can do in Capture One. I can't say the same in the other direction. Lr does a lot that Capture One can't do, before add-ons come into the equation: and it has to be said, the ability to use plug-ins in Lr increases its capabilities by an order of magnitude.
Hello Keith,
my statement about addons with LR was certainly my specific requirement for flexibility. Soon after first installation of LR I had to install/purchase a couple of addons (extended-search, metadata-viewer, video-assets, opendirectly, redate, file-browser, configuration-setting, ...) because I was unhappy with a couple of limitations and usability of LR. After a while I gave up with LR. With MediaPro, CaptureOne (and IDimager!) I never missed any add-on. May be I was expecting too much DAM features in LR. You are right, that a living add-on community is great, but it shows also certain gaps or at least some diverse user requirements.
Regards from Joseph
P.S.: What I use with IDI are more and more scripts (renaming, exports, ...), but this is something else than add-ons.
After using lr4.1 for a month, I therefore concluded that capture one is still the best raw conversion for my workflow because color is better, faster to process the raw files, interface is highly customizable and I don't need additional plug ins just to achieve the same looks in capture one. However I wish that c1 has lens correction for 35mm camera, better noise reduction and it has a built in catalog system and archiving as found in lr4.10
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