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Smart Albums: sometimes are empty

Marc Pecquet
In Catalogues, using referenced RAW files and C1 12 (most recent update), I sometimes can and sometimes can’t create Smart Albums. Typically my Smart Albums always start with a color tag or rating and the problem starts when I add a keyword and click on All. To ensure the keyword is correctly spelled, I copy paste the keyword from an actual picture.

Why is this happening - and wouldn’t it be nice if C1 listed all keywords when creating an album ( a la Aperture) instead of typing it in with the risk of a typo...
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="Marc PK" wrote:
    In Catalogues, using referenced RAW files and C1 12 (most recent update), I sometimes can and sometimes can’t create Smart Albums.
    What do you mean by "can’t create Smart Albums"?
    • The option to create a Smart Album is greyed out

    • You go through the process of creating a Smart Album, but no Album appears

    • The Smart Albums you create are empty

    Typically my Smart Albums always start with a color tag or rating and the problem starts when I add a keyword and click on All. To ensure the keyword is correctly spelled, I copy paste the keyword from an actual picture.
    Likely your Keyword rule specification is wrong, or the Smart Album location is wrong for your search.

    Perhaps start by disabling all the rules but the keyword rule. Then change location and keyword rule until the images that you expect to be selected by the keword alone are shown.
    • Remember that a Smart Album has scope depending on its location; Smart Albums inside a Project can only select variants inside that Project. Similarly for Groups

    • If the keyword is hierachical (multi level), when using EQUALS the entire hierarchy must be specified
    • Try using CONTAINS instead of EQUALS


    Why is this happening - and wouldn’t it be nice if C1 listed all keywords when creating an album ( a la Aperture) instead of typing it in with the risk of a typo...

    That's what the Filter tool does
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  • Marc Pecquet
    Thanks. I noticed indeed that it sometimes works with "contains" (my keywords are mosty hyerarchical... I didn't know about that quirk); but not always. I hope that when I get C1 20 it will work better.
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  • Eric Valk
    [quote="Marc PK" wrote:
    Thanks. I noticed indeed that it sometimes works with "contains" (my keywords are mosty hyerarchical... I didn't know about that quirk); but not always. I hope that when I get C1 20 it will work better.

    I actually think this behaviour is realistic and not a quirk.

    Suppose that I have some keywords
    • Location>Hawaii>Maui

    • Flowers>Hawaii>Maui

    • Trips>2018>Maui

    • Hawaii>Maui

    With current implementation I can find all four keywords separately or individually by the choice of CONTAINS or EQUALS
    • EQUALS
      •  can be used to find each hierarchical keyword separately
    • CONTAINS
      •  “Maui†finds all four keywords
    • CONTAINS “Hawaii>Maui†finds three of four keywords

    If the end string of a hierarchical keyword shall be found by the EQUALS operator, then some of these choices disappear.
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  • Marc Pecquet
    You are very probably right...
    That's why, as I said in my first post, that it would be nice if C1 could copy what Apple's Aperture used to do before that whole project was killed... i.e. when one clicks on Keyword, the whole list of keywords pops up in a window and all one then has to do is click on the right one.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Marc PK" wrote:
    You are very probably right...
    ... when one clicks on Keyword, the whole list of keywords pops up in a window and all one then has to do is click on the right one.


    Would have to be optional - far too many possibilities in my case.
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