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Capture One Pro 20 and Windows 7

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  • IanS
    [quote="hpinson" wrote:
    Does anyone know if Capture One Pro 20 will run on Windows 7 64 bit? This will affect if I pre-order or not.


    I have seen quite a few comments on this potential issue on other forums. Win 7 exits extended support in January, not many software companies support a dead OS. As C1 20 is on pre-sale I think Phaseone should make a statement about support for Win 7. If they are not going to support Win 7 installs there are going to generate a lot of bad publicity if Win 7 users pre purchase. Appreciate this is a user forum but Phaseone need to give a statement of intent given they are offering the product for sale while Win 7 is current.
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  • SFA
    I think if this was going to be an issue we would have heard about it.

    The matter of having to start to look at upgrading from V7 at some point and my reluctance to do that on some rather old and rarely used systems will face V7 users anyway.


    Grant
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  • Ian Leslie
    It is hard to conceive of a real reason why Win7 would not be supported. As long as they don't do something really annoying like detect Win7 and stop the product from running I would just use it and see. There are very few OS features that could stop a program like C1 from working.

    Sad but true story regarding LR. When Vista was discontinued I remember beta testing a new LR release on my Vista machine. Everything worked just fine I was looking forward to the official release. Adobe announced they were not supporting Vista. Not a surprising announcement. I was unphased - the Beta was working fine so what if they didn't officially support it. But... some poor developer got to add code to detect Vista and stop the program from running. WTH they spent resources on something totally unnecessary and broke a perfectly fine product. I was aggregated.

    My impression is that Phase One has better things for their developers to do. This impression gives me hope they will not do something dumb like that.
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  • Harlow Pinson
    I do hope Phase One realizes that Win 7 remains a rock solid platform, and at least some of us choose it for its proven reliability. Win 10 has been plagued by one forced upgrade after another that breaks the OS, especially on slightly out of date hardware. I am already having problems on my Surface 6 (bought just earlier this year) with updates. Screw that. I guess I will gamble and pre-order. I do wish Phase One released some statement of guidance.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="IanL" wrote:
    It is hard to conceive of a real reason why Win7 would not be supported. As long as they don't do something really annoying like detect Win7 and stop the product from running I would just use it and see. There are very few OS features that could stop a program like C1 from working.


    I've experienced the opposite. CO8 was not compatible with W10 and considering my situation I've preferred to upgrade to CO11 than revert to W7. I was a little disappointed 'cause other older (much much much older) apps had no problems running on the new OS. I wouldn't be sure that future CO releases won't rely at some point on new frameworks or other functionalities that will never be ported to discontinued versions of the OS.
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  • SFA
    [quote="ClauS" wrote:
    [quote="IanL" wrote:
    It is hard to conceive of a real reason why Win7 would not be supported. As long as they don't do something really annoying like detect Win7 and stop the product from running I would just use it and see. There are very few OS features that could stop a program like C1 from working.


    I've experienced the opposite. CO8 was not compatible with W10 and considering my situation I've preferred to upgrade to CO11 than revert to W7. I was a little disappointed 'cause other older (much much much older) apps had no problems running on the new OS. I wouldn't be sure that future CO releases won't rely at some point on new frameworks or other functionalities that will never be ported to discontinued versions of the OS.


    There was a point in Microsoft progress with its tools that meant many applications that wanted to take advantage of future developments had to decide whether to take the change and be able to progress of not and, potentially slowly disappear.

    The Apple community is used to that and seemingly welcome the opportunity to buy shiny new systems.

    The Windows community has only recently been "persuaded " to think that way.

    Older, entirely self contained systems that had avoided reliance on new software tool developments could claim they would still run on the new system and they can. Up to a point. At some time the applications, if not redeveloped, will start to have problems. By then probably very few people will notice or care. Meanwhile any commercial developers will probably have seen little revenue and any non-commercial developers may have done very little developing unless they viewed their "baby" as some part of them and wanted to keep it alive.

    There was a point at which the move to a 64bit system became a requirement. I made the investment at that time with the hardware being far more expensive than software. I can still use the hardware very acceptably today and still run the Windows 7 that it came with along with earlier version of C1 should I ever feel a need to. Also older version of several other applications for business oriented requirements.

    At some point things will need to move on. I'll consider that when the time comes.


    Grant
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  • Edward Jenner
    Well the beta version will run on W7 64. However, they could always pull a MS on us.

    I may risk it, and pre-order the upgrade to C20, however, all my machines are W7 and I have no plans to change that. C20 may have enough to pay for the C20 upgrade, but I would not change OS for it.
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  • IanS
    [quote="NNN636460165578985672" wrote:
    Well the beta version will run on W7 64. However, they could always pull a MS on us.

    I may risk it, and pre-order the upgrade to C20, however, all my machines are W7 and I have no plans to change that. C20 may have enough to pay for the C20 upgrade, but I would not change OS for it.


    Just something to consider. If any of the programs you use utilise .NET then Win 7 will not receive any updates for .NET and this may give you problems in the future.

    If you want to use PS CC in the future this also will not run on Win 7.
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  • SFA
    Depending to some extent on what Microsoft do there will come a point at which people will be forced off Win 7 and presumably Win 8.

    However I would not imagine that will be before the release after C1 20 and maybe not even then - depending on what MS do and how the developers need to respond to it.

    That said at some point unless one stays with very old equipment, there will come a time when change will be a requirement in order to take advantage of advances or for some other reason that might be foisted upon us.

    One possible influence is upgrading cameras and needing profiles for the new cameras if working with RAW files or, perhaps, HEIF files if the manufacturers start to offer them as optional formats for shooting compressed size files.

    Anyone staying with older systems would have some grace time before needing to take the dive into the world of Win10 but those who find a need to keep up with developments may be forced to move.

    Of course if they feel the need to keep up they have probably already made the move ... but that's for another thread.


    Grant
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  • Edward Jenner
    [quote="IanS" wrote:
    [quote="NNN636460165578985672" wrote:
    Well the beta version will run on W7 64. However, they could always pull a MS on us.

    I may risk it, and pre-order the upgrade to C20, however, all my machines are W7 and I have no plans to change that. C20 may have enough to pay for the C20 upgrade, but I would not change OS for it.


    Just something to consider. If any of the programs you use utilise .NET then Win 7 will not receive any updates for .NET and this may give you problems in the future.

    If you want to use PS CC in the future this also will not run on Win 7.



    Yes, it is definitely a consideration. I'm not saying I would never update to W10, obviously at some point it has to happen. Still on CS6. but yes, it is just a matter of time, putting off the inevitable for as long as possible.

    I did go ahead and pre-order. I suspect for many this upgrade will not be very significant, but I'm fine with paying $120 every couple of years to stay with the latest and for a few extra 'niceties'
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  • Michael Pegg
    Capture One Beta states:
    System requirements
    Windows
    Windows 7® SP1 64-bit, Windows 8.1® 64-bit, or
    Windows 10® 64-bit
    Intel or AMD CPU with 2 cores
    10 GB free disk space
    8 GB of RAM
    feel I'm not breaking the NDA with that info as it answers the question.
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