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HI, it's getting to the point that I'm going to buy a new laptop. I'm considering a Mac Book Pro with retina display. The one that I'm considering had 8 gb of ram and 256 gb of ssd with the dual core i5, is it going to run capture one 9 well?
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[quote="Reelon" wrote:
HI, it's getting to the point that I'm going to buy a new laptop. I'm considering a Mac Book Pro with retina display. The one that I'm considering had 8 gb of ram and 256 gb of ssd with the dual core i5, is it going to run capture one 9 well?
Depends what you call "well", but i have a macbook pro 2013 (non retina), with ssd and 16 Gb and it runs CO9 satisfactorily.
Try adding more RAM, it's always a benefit.0 -
Get the fastest processor (i7-quad core) and maximum RAM (16GB) and SSD (512GB) that you can afford. The figures in brackets are the largest available.
I'm underwhelmed by the Fusion technology so I would recommend you steer clear, others may have different mileage.
If you want to edit on the run (out of office) then an external 1TB hard disk works well especially if it is USB3.0 -
Yes it will, but CO is bit insane regarding RAM so 16 could be better. However it wasnt available when I wanted to buy so I got exactly what you are asking about (13`Retina 256 G SSD, 8Gb RAM 2015 model).
Regarding RAM insanity I am not sure if 16 will be any better because from what I read here those with 32Gb have similar problems. CO most grabs all your RAM and wants more.
13`MBP is a compromise as it is only dual core 15`is surely better, faster etc but I hate the size and weight. Dont care for bigger display since use mostly TB display.0 -
What kind of Ram issues is everyone having. Currently I'm running co on windows machine with 4 gb of ram, so I guess anything would be an improvement, but I'm looking at keeping the computer for at least 3 years. My budget is around 1500, I could maybe buy refurbish from apple and be able to get either 16 gb of ram or 512 gb of ssd. I would be inclined to get more ram.
How about the mid 2012 model that you can still get from apple and do ram and ssd upgrades on my own?0 -
2012 is waaaay outdated, hopeless display, heavier than todays 15`retinas.
The 16Gb refurbs show up in Apple store but not so often like 256 SSD with 8Gb. I needed one urgently so got the 8Gb but if there was 16Gb I would have taken it, worth the 200 extra.0 -
[quote="Reelon" wrote:
What kind of Ram issues is everyone having.
It consumes huge amounts of RAM during some batch operations. I'd call it a bug. Something is wrong with memory management. Once the process was able to finish it goes down again.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/975141/captureone9-21GB.png
During normal operation 3-6 GB are normal.[quote="Reelon" wrote:
HI, it's getting to the point that I'm going to buy a new laptop. I'm considering a Mac Book Pro with retina display. The one that I'm considering had 8 gb of ram and 256 gb of ssd with the dual core i5, is it going to run capture one 9 well?
Depends on how you are going to use it. For small sessions and just small amount of processing it should be fine. 16 GB RAM would be better and allow you to have something else open at the same time.
If you can wait a bit, then wait. Apple should be releasing new rMBP models soon (2-4 months).0 -
[quote="Reelon" wrote:
What kind of Ram issues is everyone having. Currently I'm running co on windows machine with 4 gb of ram, so I guess anything would be an improvement,
Are you running C1 on that 4 GB machine? Then I guess you don't do a lot of adjustments and no layers at all, right?[quote="Reelon" wrote:
but I'm looking at keeping the computer for at least 3 years.
Then I suggest not to underspec, software typically gets more demanding over time/versions (and users do)...
cheers
BeO0 -
[quote="BeO" wrote:
Are you running C1 on that 4 GB machine? Then I guess you don't do a lot of adjustments and no layers at all, right?
Then I suggest not to underspec, software typically gets more demanding over time/versions (and users do)...
cheers
BeO
you're right not a lot of adjustments, and maybe around three layers at the most.
I think that I have settle into getting a 256 gb of ssd and 16 gb of RAM, if I buy it from bhphotovideo website the difference between a new one and a refurbished from apple is not bg of a difference (because of the tax that apple charges)0 -
CO can also make use of all the GPUs available, so if you can spring for the descrete video card, you'll get its benefits along with the integrated GPU. 0 -
Bob, I've read somewhere here recently in the forum (I think from Christian) that two GPUs with different speed (e.g.integrated plus a fast discrete one) would not speed C1 up, the faster one would limit that, eventually it is even an averaged speed. I don't know if one can diabled an integrated GPU. 0 -
[quote="BeO" wrote:
Bob, I've read somewhere here recently in the forum (I think from Christian) that two GPUs with different speed (e.g.integrated plus a fast discrete one) would not speed C1 up, the faster one would limit that, eventually it is even an averaged speed. I don't know if one can diabled an integrated GPU.
Hmmm. May be. I wonder if PO would explain better how their multi-GPU support works?0 -
[quote="BeO" wrote:
Bob, I've read somewhere here recently in the forum (I think from Christian) that two GPUs with different speed (e.g.integrated plus a fast discrete one) would not speed C1 up, the faster one would limit that, eventually it is even an averaged speed. I don't know if one can diabled an integrated GPU.
what I read is that C1 will use all available GPUs = hence 2 > 1 and 3 (dual dGPU + iGPU) > 2 ... you might be referring to something when you have some real ancient GPU(s) for a situation when disabling them in C1 to use CPU only will be better, no ?0 -
Phase One recommends:
"A fast Graphics card from NVIDIA or AMD with min. 2GB RAM"
Most graphics cards are not that fast, so that pretty much means buying a new Mac Book Pro! I was hoping to put a SSD and 16GB RAM in a 2012 model which still has plenty of ports and a DVD drive, all of which I need when traveling.
Any views / experience / comments please?0 -
I posted about MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=21729&p=103659#p103659
Regards,
Hans0 -
[quote="BeO" wrote:
I was referring to a setup with a fast and a slow gfx card:
cheers
I've started a new thread to see what is known about CO9's behavior.
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"I was referring to a setup with a fast and a slow gfx card:"
I saw that thread but understood it referred to a desktop computer not a MacBook Pro used on location0 -
[quote="HansB" wrote:
I posted about MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=21729&p=103659#p103659
Regards,
Hans
We suddenly had 3 threads about the same topic and I posted my reply to the wrong one.
How fast is your video card which you mention in the quoted thread? Upgrading the RAM to 16GB is no problem, but upgrading to a 2GB NVIDIA video card (as Phase One recommends) on i.e. a MacBook Pro might not be possible. Thanks.0 -
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
[quote="HansB" wrote:
I posted about MBP 2009 and MBPr 2014 in here:
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=21729&p=103659#p103659
Regards,
Hans
We suddenly had 3 threads about the same topic and I posted my reply to the wrong one.
How fast is your video card which you mention in the quoted thread? Upgrading the RAM to 16GB is no problem, but upgrading to a 2GB NVIDIA video card (as Phase One recommends) on i.e. a MacBook Pro might not be possible. Thanks.
Yes, and I was trying to answer in that wrong thread first. 😂
No upgrade of graphics cards in an MBP. Not even with excellent soldering skills. Pity. A feature request for Apple: fully modular Macbooks.
The benchmark lines from the CaptureOneICP.log of the 2014 MBPr:
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL : found platform Apple, OpenCL Version : OpenCL 1.2 (Dec 8 2015 17:02:20)
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Device : Iris Pro
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Driver Version : 1.2(Dec 17 2015 21:11:49)
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Compute Units : 40
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL benchMark : 0.931680
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Device : GeForce GT 750M
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Driver Version : 10.8.14 310.42.15f01
2016-02-06 20:19:38> OpenCL Compute Units : 2
2016-02-06 20:19:40> OpenCL benchMark : 1.590144
Most of the time I use my old 2009 MBP on Location.
Regards,
Hans0 -
@HansB
Thanks.
The reliance of software companies on OS features so that they can save money in development costs can also drive away customers who are fighting to get a workable solution for their needs. New software, new OS… new camera, new OS… it goes on and is difficult to sustain for those who need these tools - even if they are willing to invest. Extra problems above those of their real work - photography!
Apple have shot themselves in the leg. I would willing buy the latest MacBook Pro tomorrow but I need the ports and I want an integrated DVD drive. They call it PRO, so why not make it 15cm thicker so that there is extra space for everything AND for retrofitting!
>>>"No upgrade of graphics cards in an MBP. Not even with excellent soldering skills. Pity. A feature request for Apple: fully modular Macbooks."
I'm currently investigating that.
>>>"Most of the time I use my old 2009 MBP on Location."
Yes, but I need a solution with C1-9 or did you mention that in the other thread?0 -
[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
@HansB
Thanks.
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>>>"Most of the time I use my old 2009 MBP on Location."
Yes, but I need a solution with C1-9 or did you mention that in the other thread?
Yes, hidden in here:[quote="HansB" wrote:
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I am still running CO-9.0.2 on my MBP mid2009/2.8GHz/8GB RAM/1TB HDD as 2nd system. It's fully workable for me, but sometimes a little bit laggy when masking with trackpad or Wacom. Exporting the same images mentioned above takes 25 minutes with 100% CPU load, as there is no openCL support for that old MBP. Tethering and Capture Pilot are working, too.
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The MBP 2009 becomes laggy in masking with too much multitasking around. But on location, I run a session for tethering. And when shooting, I don't need all that multitasking stuff.
Regards,
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Thanks, that gives me some confidence, especially as I don't need C1s database and mostly do not tether. Editing is necessary however as I am often away for very long periods.
Possibly the 2GB graphics recommendation is based on very high end usage. How big are your average files?
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[quote="NN635356811825979550UL" wrote:
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How big are your average files?
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My average file size depends on image content. I am using 18MPix Canon RAW files. The size varies from 20MB up to 30MB. The average is at about 24MB.
I haven’t tried it on larger files from 36MPix or 50MPix cameras. I expect some more difference between the two Macbooks with those.
Regards,
Hans0 -
Thanks.
My RAWs are mostly 25-40MB and I would not get a laptop so old, maybe 2012 is the most flexible 'vintage'.
Need to investigate a Frankenstein construction too 😉 as we will probably both be using 50MB files within 1-2 years.
Best regards0
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