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New user queries

Dabow
Hi everyone. I'm a long time LR user trying to get to grips with C1. I have some functionality queries I'm hoping someone here will be kind enough to help me with:

1) In LR there's the ability to zoom an image out to less than 100% (1:4, 1:8, 1:16, etc). I use quite a large monitor and I find 100% is often too large to accurately assess edits, so I like to minimise the image while editing. In C1 I only seem to be able to go to either 100% or fit screen. For the latter it would mean having to physically reduce the size of the C1 window, something I don't want to do. So, is there a way of getting an image to zoom to below 100% whilst editing? I've set the margin to the maximum allowed but this isn't sufficient.

2) Is there a lights-out mode? I appreciate there's a full-screen option, but LR allows lights-out with the ability to edit while in that mode. It's a handy option I use often.

That's it for now. I'm still very much feeling my way with C1, but getting there slowly. Any help on these queries would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Dave
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  • HansB
    1) CO zooms with the following steps (<cmd> + '+', <cmd> + '-', menu 'zoom in' and menu 'zoom out', or with zoom slider), not just 'fit' and 'full':
    'fit' - 25% - 33% - 50% - 67% - 100% - 200% - 300% - 400%

    2) I don't know that LR mode, not using LR. But I can use the tools in full screen mode. Like painting masks, etc.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • Dabow
    Thanks Hans. I'm not sure I follow your zoom explanation. The furthest I have been able to zoom out is to fit using cmd + -. I want to be able to zoom out further whilst keeping the application window full screen. I know I can decrease the size of the application window to get the 'to fit' preview smaller, but that's not suitable for me needs.
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  • HansB
    Sorry, I didn't get the clue that you want to go smaller than 'fit'. 😊

    There is no way to make the image smaller than 'fit' in CO. At least no way I've ever found.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • H. Cremers
    [quote="Dabow" wrote:
    ... I want to be able to zoom out further whilst keeping the application window full screen. I know I can decrease the size of the application window to get the 'to fit' preview smaller, but that's not suitable for me needs.


    Could you elaborate why you'd want that? Perhaps you're looking for something and this is the way LR would give it to you, while almost certainly CO would do that differently.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="HansB" wrote:
    Sorry, I didn't get the clue that you want to go smaller than 'fit'. 😊

    There is no way to make the image smaller than 'fit' in CO. At least no way I've ever found.

    Well, there is a trick, not an official way of doing it...

    Enable the Proof Margin of the Viewer (top left corner, double rectangle symbol).
    Next, open Preferences > Appearance tab > Viewer > Proof Margin slider. Increase the value up to a max of 900 px (!).
    The setting is immediately active in the Viewer so you can review the result of your setting real-time.

    Now the Proof Margin toggle is a 'less then fit' size option! 😁

    Hope you like it.
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  • HansB
    I do! Nice trick, Paul. 😄
    So logical, as it has less area to fit in.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • SFA
    An interesting idea Paul!

    However on my system it results in a thumbnail sized display to start with. Zooming up changes the width but the height is constrained. No matter what size I set for the margin the height is fixed when zooming.

    I'm guessing there has to be a logical reason but just at the moment the logic escapes me UNLESS it is simply to do with default screen resolution - i.e. it will work on high resolution screens but is of limited use on lower resolution screens (I have 1980x1020).

    I'm reasonably sure that's the challenge for me but can you confirm that it is?



    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Grant,

    Not sure what you mean with zooming in. I ran the same trick on my Win7 system on a 1920x1200 monitor with the same result as my Mac.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    Hi Grant,

    Not sure what you mean with zooming in. I ran the same trick on my Win7 system on a 1920x1200 monitor with the same result as my Mac.



    Hi Paul,

    If I follow your suggestion to set the border to 900px (or some other large size for the border but less than 900px) the image is presented quite small - so say 280 px nominally but reduced to fit into the 1080 vertical space minus whatever C1 retains for menu bars etc.

    If I zoom larger from there the width changes but the height stays the same - so I get an image where the content enlarges but only the width is altered not the height. (Or if the height does change it is by a very very small amount!). I.e. the image zooms larger and smaller but the displayed area only "zooms" in width not height.

    It has to be the result of a combination of settings but I cannot work out what the combination is that causes the anomaly.



    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Grant,

    I am afraid I can not reproduce the behavior you describe. On my screen (Win & Mac) both width and height change when I change the proof margin.
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  • SFA
    Hi Paul,

    Interesting.

    I will assume it's a local setting of some sort - but have no idea what is might be.

    This system is quite "standard" (whatever that means these days!) No special settings that I am aware of ...

    Thanks for checking Paul.

    It's not a matter that worries me - I had never even thought of the idea of going smaller than Fit. So no problem for me but an interesting puzzle.


    If I stumble across an answer of some sort I will add to the thread.
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