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Remove Entry From an Album

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  • Carlos_
    If I right click and "Delete" an image from inside an album (or press Del), I get a message with a "Remove from colecction" button. So, just delete it, but make sure you do it while viewing the image from the album itself (not from the folder).
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  • willypotts
    Carlos,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I tried this ... I had a TIF and a variant in a collection and deleted them from the collection as you suggested.

    The TIF totally disappeared from the catalog, even from the 'folders' view, but I was able to re-import it because the file itself was not deleted. Good thing there was only one TIF in the collection. Reconstructing a bigger collection could have been a big problem for me.

    The variant, and all its settings also disappeared totally from the catalog. All my work on that variant is gone. I should have saved a style, but even that doesn't include local adjustments.

    Very odd behavior. I should be able to remove an item from a collection without losing it entirely.

    Willy
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  • RichardT
    I just created a test Album in my catalog.

    I dragged a JPEG and a TIFF into the album.

    I then used the Delete option from the context menu to delete each file from the Album in turn.

    In both cases the original image files could still be accessed from their original folders in Capture One. I did not have to re-import them.

    I am using V9.0.3 on Windows 7.

    Richard
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  • willypotts
    Thanks Richard ... Must be operator error.
    I too am running 9.0.3 Win7
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  • SFA
    [quote="willypotts" wrote:
    Carlos,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I tried this ... I had a TIF and a variant in a collection and deleted them from the collection as you suggested.

    The TIF totally disappeared from the catalog, even from the 'folders' view, but I was able to re-import it because the file itself was not deleted. Good thing there was only one TIF in the collection. Reconstructing a bigger collection could have been a big problem for me.

    The variant, and all its settings also disappeared totally from the catalog. All my work on that variant is gone. I should have saved a style, but even that doesn't include local adjustments.

    Very odd behavior. I should be able to remove an item from a collection without losing it entirely.

    Willy


    Willy,

    I'm not sure about catalogs as I don't use them but I suspect that the way they work with files with variants is much the same as for sessions.

    For a specific original image file all of the variant information, including the first edit, will me contained in the same file(s). (For "regular" edits. Masks and some other edits that require further files or additional external files may be slightly different).

    So there is no way to "delete" a file but keep a variant of it. However you can delete just a variant (i.e. a variant edit) and that sounds like what you were trying to do in the case you have described.

    Of course I may have misunderstood.


    Grant
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  • willypotts
    Grant,

    I was originally trying to delete a TIFF and the NEF variant I used to create the TIFF from a collection. I recreated the situation and tried again --- This time the dialog box specifically said "delete from collection" and that's exactly what it did this time. My mistake.

    Interesting ... I had to recreate the NEF variant that was totally deleted in my original effort to delete it just from the collection, and this time I made additional adjustments to further improve the image. Now when I process out the new variant to a TIFF it looks like the original variant and decidedly not like the new variant. Perhaps I will just start over.

    Ah well, my original question has been resolved and I thank all for taking the time to help.

    Willy
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  • SFA
    Hi Willy,

    I think we may run the risk of confusion here based on terminology.

    If you are discussing Capture One and referring to variants it is likely that most people will be thinking in terms of the Edit variants - different edits (perhaps) based on the same file be it NEF, TIFF, DNG, JPG or whatever.

    So if you have created a TIFF version of your NEF file BOTH files are now potential ORIGINAL files ready for editing as far as C1 is concerned and each may have their own set of variants based on the editing work performed.

    One potential area of confusion when Exporting is the choice of exporting the original file to a different file type but without any edits that you may have performed on it or to export WITH edits applied. And if edits are included AND you have different edited variants - which variant (or variants) you select for the export process.

    Personally I prefer to use the Process option partly because it is a reminder to check the settings and ensure that what I get for output is what I want to get as output.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • willypotts
    Hi Grant,

    1) I started with a NEF file all by itself in a subdirectory and imported it into C1. C1 shows this file as variant [1].
    I made a 'new' variant (not a 'clone' variant) of variant[1] and C1 shows this as variant [2].
    I made some obvious changes to variant[2] to correct color temp, exposure, contrast and detail.
    (The original NEF has a strong blue color cast from being shot in the shade and was flat.)
    I then used the 'process' option to create a TIFF from variant[2] and added the variant and the TIFF to a new 'album'.

    2) Later (see above) I tried to remove variant[2] and the TIFF from the album and ended up removing them totally from the catalog.

    3) Finally, I deleted the TIFF from the hard drive and I once again made a 'new' variant[2] from the original NEF variant[1] and again made changes to variant[2] but this time I made obviously stronger changes. When I select the new variant[2] and 'process' it (same process as above) to create a TIFF, the TIFF does not match variant[2]. The colors are less saturated and detail has been lost. Frankly, it looks quite like the TIFF from step 1 above. When I import the new TIFF into the C1 catalog I can clearly see the difference between the variant and the TIFF.

    4) I made some dramatic changes to variant[2] and 'processed' it again to make sure it was being used to make the TIFF and I verified that this is the case.

    Am I expecting too much to assume these should look identical? As it is, I will have to modify the TIFF to get it to look like the variant.

    For what it's worth, I am editing (proof profile) and processing in ProphotoRGB.

    Willy
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  • willypotts
    Apparently I should have read this first:
    Does C1 Pro display tiffs/jpgs in a smaller color space?
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