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Suggestion to CaptureOne developers.

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  • John Doe
    I do agree that Capture One should be more customizable in terms of interface colors.

    You should send a feature request through "My Pages" on Phase One's website, to let them know. This here is only a user-to-user forum.
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  • Art Dizamo
    Everyone who wants the option to change interface colors please message support, thanks!
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  • Art Dizamo
    Bumping to the top to make sure it gets seen 😊
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  • Art Dizamo


    What do you think?
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  • Ian Wilson
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    Personally, I think it looks horrible, but each to their own taste, I suppose.

    Ian
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  • SFA
    [quote="Ian3" wrote:
    Personally, I think it looks horrible, but each to their own taste, I suppose.

    Ian


    I'm not a fan either.

    I think it is likely that Phase have considered research into the way our eyes interact with screens and their set brightness and have adopted what is currently thought to be "best practice" for avoiding eye strain over extended periods and keeping colour interpretations as neutral as possible.

    It would probably be interesting to see something written for the Image Professor's blog about way some of the default settings are chosen and fixed.


    Grant
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  • Art Dizamo
    Current interface actually puts MORE strain on your eyes when you use your computer in a lit room, especially desks near windows. It has way less contrast. People who use dark on light interfaces all day, people who read books, etc have trouble switching to this inverse colors, it induces headaches and causes dizziness, just google it.
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  • Art Dizamo
    just an example:
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Art Dizamo" wrote:
    just an example:

    From that same thread:
    https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index. ... #entry9767

    And again: this is why a light background is a bad idea:
    https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index. ... e/?p=17071

    You don't want colours to "pop". You want them to be accurate, and dark is better for that, for photography.

    The move to a darker UI as standard (across most, if not all, current image editors and Raw converters) happened for very a good reason: for many (most?) of us, a dark interface is simply better.

    (And it's not an age-dependent thing: I'm nearly 56, and I find a dark theme to be far preferable).

    Incidentally, a thorough read of the Affinity thread suggests that the real issue with its dark interface is contrast at least as much as it is the actual colours being used...
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Art Dizamo" wrote:


    What do you think?

    Distracting.
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  • Art Dizamo
    Well I can't physically use Capture One for more than 10-15 minutes max - I get really dizzy, my eyes start to hurt and I feel an urgent need to look away, look through a window, etc. to calm myself down. This does not happen with black on white text. or actually any combination of dark on light colors, but any inverse triggers it. And I am far from being alone. Also, I didn't say CHANGE the interface color, I said "consider adding an option", stop being so negative for no reason.
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  • Wesley
    The "one size fits all" never works out. Same should be said for the background color.
    I welcome Art Dizamo's example.
    There are similar background color options in Bridge & Photoshop. Mine is set on a neutral gray-like color.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Art Dizamo" wrote:
    Well I can't physically use Capture One for more than 10-15 minutes max - I get really dizzy, my eyes start to hurt and I feel an urgent need to look away, look through a window, etc. to calm myself down. This does not happen with black on white text. or actually any combination of dark on light colors, but any inverse triggers it. And I am far from being alone. Also, I didn't say CHANGE the interface color, I said "consider adding an option", stop being so negative for no reason.


    Most of the problems of that type I have read about over the years have been the other way round. Especially for photo editing and graphics work.

    The secondary problem in this area of use is that colour sensitivity, critical for many, may be compromised much more by working with a light background rather than a darker one.

    I don't doubt that one solution does not fit all but your symptoms of a problem only with dark screens seems unusual. Have you investigated the many possible reported causes of such responses and compared them to your normal working environment? Do you get similar symptoms in other environments?


    Grant
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  • Art Dizamo
    Grant,
    It falls under Scotopic Sensitivity Syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irlen_syndrome) but I believe that the cause is not biochemical in nature but is a result of 15 years of working with black on white text on computers, I just can't switch to the inverse color scheme. If you have any friends who work with text, or use the same software for years ask them to try white on black interface and judge from their reactions. If you use computers moderately then dark interface is much better, I agree, but if you work 10 hours a day with black on white text and then have to switch to inverse your brain will say nope.
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  • RichardT
    Art,

    Before I retired I worked as a software developer for about 24 years. In that time I always used dark text on a white background while editing code and writing documentation. Yet when I am editing or viewing images I much prefer a dark interface. I have tried lighter interface configurations where the software allows it, but have always switched back to the darker settings. Using the two different schemes does not give me any of the problems you describe.

    Having said that, I can understand that others have different preferences and would agree it would be good if Phase One could add the ability to customise the colours of the interface. However I am concerned - given their recent track record in breaking existing functionality when introducing new features and then not doing enough rigorous regression testing before releasing the update.

    Richard
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  • Art Dizamo
    I prefer it too, but I can't use it.
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  • SFA
    [quote="Art Dizamo" wrote:
    I prefer it too, but I can't use it.


    Art,

    Have you investigated possible causes and possible solutions, full or partial?

    Given that you would prefer to work with a dark background it you could I would hazard a guess that you have.

    What did you discover?


    Grant
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  • Jochen Beck
    Well whatever anyone prefers it should not be too difficult to get an alternative skin done for people who cannot work with the dark one...
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  • George Barron
    [quote="Izildur" wrote:
    Well whatever anyone prefers it should not be too difficult to get an alternative skin done for people who cannot work with the dark one...


    Agreed. I don't hate the white text on black background but I don't love it either. Much preferred the black text on neutral gray background in Aperture.

    No reason for CO not to give us the option unless they are wedded to a signature look.

    But for me there is a bigger problem that relates to this: Big monitor + tiny CO text in its tool panel. You have to sit back just a tiny bit to take in a 27" iMac screen. When I do so the text is too small. I can see it and read it, but not comfortably or easily and find myself leaning in to see text and leaning back to look at the image. Larger font options would likely alleviate some of the 'white text on black background' issues that some people have.

    Give us a few font size options and maybe 4 background color options and I think most everyone would be happy.

    I will submit both requests to PhaseOne.
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