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Capture One 6.2 released

Paul Steunebrink
Today Phase One has released the long awaited/anticipated update of Capture One 6. Version 6.2 has some interesting functional improvements and enhancements besides bug fixes and expanded camera support. See the release notes for more details.

Some personal highlights:

Functional enhancements
- saturation and clarity in local adjustments (Pro/DB)
- copy local adjustment mask to another layer / invert local adjustment mask (Pro/DB)
- more camera controls for Canon and Nikon (Pro)
- extensive configurable warning preferences
- auto adjust includes white balance, is configurable

Cameras
Phase One IQ series of course, and Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Panasonic, Ricoh, Samsung and Sony cameras

Performance
Memory issues, OpenCL, 64-bit performance

I hope to discuss more details with you shortly and look forward to hear your experiences.
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  • Ivan52
    I`ve got ati 4850 and with 6.2 update after several days OpenCL turned grey. Anyone knows why?
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  • NN122830UL1
    [quote="Alex1111" wrote:
    Of course I will report. I know they have been trying, but also realize I and others have put more than several hours into this too, hours could be working on photos instead. Supporting a support case takes a lot of time with all the data collection, uninstalls, re-installs, testing on images, etc. all the while losing set ups, etc. because of clean installs over and over again each time PO asks to test something else. I work in v5, then try 6.x, then go back to v5 the asked to try something else, repeat, over a dozen times. I am almost losing interest in going thru this again after 6.0, 6.0.1, 6.1.1 and now 6.2 as I have after all these months of waiting and hours of test&input getting nothing better.


    My sentiments exactly, Alex.

    I didn't expect when paying for the upgrade, to become a beta tester...I just expected it to work
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="NN122830UL1" wrote:
    My sentiments exactly, Alex.

    I didn't expect when paying for the upgrade, to become a beta tester...I just expected it to work

    The day you find any RAW conversion or image manipulation software that works like that, be sure to give us all a shout, because I've never seen it in Cap One, Bibble, Lightroom, Silkypix, DxO, Raw Therapee (which is excused because it's free), Paint Shop Pro or any other software that I've used.

    In fact, I'd go as far as to say that although (to be kind) I'm seriously underwhelmed by some functionality/IQ aspects of Cap One 6, in terms of resilience and reliability it's about as good as it gets - "bombproof" is about right.

    The fact is that often enough, "software problems" can best be attributed to the OS platform and hardware environment the software is trying to run on.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
    [quote="NN122830UL1" wrote:
    My sentiments exactly, Alex.

    I didn't expect when paying for the upgrade, to become a beta tester...I just expected it to work

    The day you find any RAW conversion or image manipulation software that works like that, be sure to give us all a shout,

    CO versions 3-5. Sure there were some minor bugs/annoyances, but they were never unusable.

    [quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:

    The fact is that often enough, "software problems" can be best attributed to the platform and hardware environment the software is trying to run on.


    Sure, blame the user. Odd though as PO confirmed there were issue with me. Odd as other users have the exact same out of memory issues. Odd as versions 3-5 were rock solid and version 5 rock solid on the exact same system.
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Alex1111" wrote:
    CO versions 3-5. Sure there were some minor bugs/annoyances, but they were never unusable.

    And 6 is not - in any way - unusable to me.

    That's my point: your problems are likely to be your (hardware/OS/other) problems. That's just how it is, these days. I've seen essentially identical discussions in the Lightroom and Bibble forums, and the answer invariably boils down to being some quirk of the box the software is on.
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  • Keith Reeder
    [quote="Alex1111" wrote:
    Sure, blame the user. Odd though as PO confirmed there were issue with me. Odd as other users have the exact same out of memory issues. Odd as versions 3-5 were rock solid and version 5 rock solid on the exact same system.

    I'm not "blaming" anyone, so you can take the hair shirt off.

    I'm saying that it doesn't matter how a previous version of software ran, that provides no basis - these days - for assessing how a new version will behave.

    Oh - and PO will say whatever it thinks the customer wants to hear - that's just good customer management.
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  • Urukhai
    [quote="Keith Reeder" wrote:
    [quote="NN122830UL1" wrote:

    The fact is that often enough, "software problems" can best be attributed to the OS platform and hardware environment the software is trying to run on.


    Yes 32 bit Windows has its limitation. However WinXP SP3 is rock solid and hasn't caused any problems for years in my system. I believe PO is the only software company in the IT industry complaining WinXP is not stable.

    2GB workspace size for a typical 20MB RAW file is almost 100X. Do you dare to post to academic/developer forums saying your C1 application need more than 100X workspace and hear what they say?

    PO is blaming 32bit and claiming that 64bit is more stable. 64bit will just give C1 6 more rooms & time for memory to leak before the problem surfaces. I don't think it is the right way to solve a problem.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Urukhai" wrote:

    PO is blaming 32bit and claiming that 64bit is more stable. 64bit will just give C1 6 more rooms & time for memory to leak before the problem surfaces. I don't think it is the right way to solve a problem.

    I don't think PO has ever blamed 32bit. On the contrary they have a 32-bit version.

    Also I have had more time to test 6.2 and have found it is actually much less stable than 6.1.1. It is crashing very often and generating crash reports - more like 6.0 did originally. This is different than the less frequent 'out of memory' dialog crash that 6.1.1 had that is not accompanied by a crash report. 6.2 also still does the 'out of memory' crash in addition these new type of crashes. I will of course submit reports.
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  • Mike1111
    [quote="Ivan52" wrote:
    I`ve got ati 4850 and with 6.2 update after several days OpenCL turned grey. Anyone knows why?


    me too!

    Mike
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  • NN168414UL
    I have just installed C1 6.2 on a MacPro 12 core 16GB of RAM and it keeps crashing ( I get the spinning beach ball of Death)
    I am upgrading from Express
    I have done everything I can think of:
    uninstalled the program and reinstalled CRASH
    Got rid of ALL other installs of C1 older versions CRASH
    reloaded MAC OSX snow leopard CRASH
    upgraded Snow Leopard CRASH
    Fixed user permissions CRASH
    When opening the program in 32bit mode it crashes immediatly
    It seems to crash with random use but the most common is when using the overlay tool
    Anyone having the same problems?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="NN168414UL" wrote:
    I have just installed C1 6.2 on a MacPro 12 core 16GB of RAM and it keeps crashing ( I get the spinning beach ball of Death)
    I am upgrading from Express
    I have done everything I can think of:
    uninstalled the program and reinstalled CRASH
    Got rid of ALL other installs of C1 older versions CRASH
    reloaded MAC OSX snow leopard CRASH
    upgraded Snow Leopard CRASH
    Fixed user permissions CRASH
    When opening the program in 32bit mode it crashes immediatly
    It seems to crash with random use but the most common is when using the overlay tool
    Anyone having the same problems?

    Maybe you like to re-post on the Mac forum. You're Windows here. You won't find much similar experiences. 😉
    While on it you might as well open your own thread.
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  • non092
    [quote="Ivan52" wrote:
    I`ve got ati 4850 and with 6.2 update after several days OpenCL turned grey. Anyone knows why?


    I have the same problem, Opencl isn't working after the update with an hd4850
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="NNN634318231949072235" wrote:
    [quote="Ivan52" wrote:
    I`ve got ati 4850 and with 6.2 update after several days OpenCL turned grey. Anyone knows why?


    I have the same problem, Opencl isn't working after the update with an hd4850


    could you report the OS type and version of Catalyst Control you are using?
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  • non092
    Hi,
    I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits and the latest version of catalyst (11.4).
    APP is installed and up to date.
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  • s ss
    the same
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  • Ivan52
    Also Win7x64 and latest(11.4) ati drivers.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="Ivan52" wrote:
    Also Win7x64 and latest(11.4) ati drivers.



    OK...here's a section of the release notes for 11.4 for Windows 7, I highlighted the pertinent section. Although AMD generally retifies such things quickly, so you might turn off OpenGL and wait for the next release....I would roll back to version 11.3 (or the last installed that worked well, on my machine that was 11.3)
    This points out that neither PhaseOne or Adobe controll OpenGL, just utilize it...Open GL is not a very tight standard...and most of all...gamers are the primary video card demographic, not photographers...


    Known issues under the Windows 7 operating system
    The following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced under the Windows 7 operating system in the latest version of AMD Catalyst. These include:
    •PowerDVD may randomly crash if HDMI 8 channel audio is enabled.
    •The image may freeze if HD video is played over an extended period of time.
    •Some BD content my not playback smoothly using WinDVD.
    •Star Wars Jedi Knight II / Jedi Academy may randomly crash during game launch.
    [color=#FF4040:1stcan91]•OpenGL acceleration may not always function with Adobe Photoshop CS5.[/color:1stcan91] •High GPU clock speeds may be retained after exiting a 3D application.
    •PowerDVD my display random jitter when playing a 1080i BD video with Aero mode turned off.
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  • Kevin Clapcott
    C1 uses Open CL not Open GL like Adobe 😉

    It still doesn't explain your problem though.
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  • Mark Caton
    I know it's a pain, but after installing ATI 11.4, I had to reinstall Capture One 6.2 to get everything working correctly.
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  • s ss
    http://www.captureintegration.com/2011/ ... ng-c1-6-2/
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="NNN634244798188276668" wrote:
    http://www.captureintegration.com/2011/05/02/not-recommending-c1-6-2/

    As you might have noticed, the link refers to an advise regarding CO 6.2 for Mac, not Windows. I endorse however the general recommendations at the end of the text.
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  • Ivan52
    Rolling back driver or reinstalling CO doesn`t help.
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  • non092
    I updated ati drivers to new version and reinstalled C1 but nothing changed ....
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