Making selects in LR and importing back to C1
Hello,
I know that C1 7 will import LR catalogues. If you grab a back up session of C1 while the original session is still being shot, and thus still being synced every so often by a tech, will LR reflect the sync in virtual real time as you are working with the back up session in LR, or can you simple recycle the LR session as the C1 session is being backed up so that the most recent back up (added images) will show up in LR? Obviously, I should run a test, but just thought I'd ask to see if anyone would know for sure. Thanks.
I know that C1 7 will import LR catalogues. If you grab a back up session of C1 while the original session is still being shot, and thus still being synced every so often by a tech, will LR reflect the sync in virtual real time as you are working with the back up session in LR, or can you simple recycle the LR session as the C1 session is being backed up so that the most recent back up (added images) will show up in LR? Obviously, I should run a test, but just thought I'd ask to see if anyone would know for sure. Thanks.
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I am afraid I do not fully understand what you're after, I apologize for that, some info however.
You can import a LR catalog into a CO7 catalog, not into a session.
There is not sync mechanism between LR and CO7. Import is a one-way street.0 -
can you open up a c1 session in LR, ad color tags, and then import that single LR session back into C1? The color tags remaining intact. 0 -
LR doesn't understand CO sessions. You could import the images from a folder in a session into LR and then colour tag them. Then you could import the LR catalog into CO and it should keep the tags.
Test it and see.0 -
ok, thanks. do you know if there is a way to ad labels or color tags to images in either LR or in Bridge so that those labels/color tags will show up in C1? 0 -
Colour tags aren't standardised like star ratings so they often don't come across when importing from another application. I think the import from a LR catalog will work though as it can translate the data from the catalog rather than the embedded or sidecar xmp data. 0 -
I know that you can apply star ratings to images in LR and then save out to xmp sidecar files then CO can read the sidecar files. This is the method I use. Don't know about color ratings. 0 -
Thanks Steven, that's what I thought. But say you are shooting to C1 and at the same time you are accessing that same C1 session from another computer but with LR. Will LR show the images still coming in as you are working within LR (in virtual real time), or do you have to keep re syncing LR with that C1 session each time new shots are added to the session in order to view them in LR? Basically, I want someone to be able to make star ratings to images in a session while the shoot is still going on. But I don't think you can have the same C1 session open twice on 2 separate computers and it have them reflect real time changes. ?? 0 -
Ooops, let me clarify ... Will LR show the new images coming into the session as you are shooting? 0 -
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Ooops, let me clarify ... Will LR show the new images coming into the session as you are shooting?
If you list the folder as a hot folder in LR, then LR should auto import them as they come in. As for whether the star ratings that are applied in LR immediately showing up in C1 in real time, I'm not sure. You will also have to have LR preferences set to save all changes to the sidecar files immediately and not to the database, otherwise you will have to manually save out the xmp files from LR in order for C1 to see it.0 -
When the file comes into the LR watched folder it will be imported. LR won't go back and look at the xmp sidecars automatically after you have rated the images. You can force it to read them though but this another manual action on your part. 0 -
I see, yes, a hot folder will do it! So, as I am saving all changes immediately to the XMP file in LR, then when the shoot is over, do I then have to somehow import the session out of LR into C1 in order for C1 to read the XMP files (with the labels)? Or as I am saving the the XMP files in LR, C1 will just be able to reflect that, in real time - in other words, show the ratings in C1 as I'm making them. Basically, how does the relationship between c1 and LR work in that context? Basically, I want an Art Director to be able to make selects WHILE the shoot is going on, WITHOUT having to hold up the shoot by stoping to make selects before the photographer moves onto the next look. For example, as I'm trying to get at here, by using a separate computer and accessing the c1 session with LR and making his or her selects in lightroom while the shoot continues, and whereby he or she does can access new images immediately as they come in. Does that make sense? Thanks guys. 0 -
In C1, go to your Preferences>Image tab and at the bottom check the boxes under metadata. I think this will cause C1 to update the metadata for the files automatically, but since I have never tried it under the conditions your describing I'm not sure. You might still have to select all the images in C1, then right click/control click to get your contextual menu and select Load Metadata at the top of the list to force C1 to look at the XMP files to see the ratings. 0 -
Wouldn't Capture Pilot be a better solution ? 0 -
Steven, thanks I will try that. If that were to work, do you think it would cause any problems if the photographer where backing up to a server, say, after every 10 or 15 shots? [quote="sizzlingbadger" wrote:
Wouldn't Capture Pilot be a better solution ?
You would think, but in my experiences with Capture Pilot, because the volume of shooting is so high (80 - 100 images a day; think fashion catalogue) or because a studio just has a poor network, rendering of images has been too slow for most art directors - many of whom are uptight to begin with, and who hardly have the patience to wait for even the 10 seconds it takes to re start C1 in the event of a crash. Also, I think that for whatever reason, they just HAVE to see the images on a monitor. Go Figure. What I'm hoping to do is to all but remove the AD from the set, basically isolating the digy techs so that the they can focus on capture management, and not have to i). share their capture machine with an AD, and ii). not have to be forever pandering to an AD's directions, commands, complaints, etc ... and then let the AD focus on making selects. As you can imagine, there are a number of personalities and egos on a fashion set; that alone is enough to deal with. I'm thinking it would make things run more smoothly to eliminate certain relationships that often evolve into contemptuous ones anyway, if you know what I mean.0 -
also, is it possible to do the same thing I've talked about in LR, but with Bridge? 0 -
You should be able to do something similar with Bridge as well, as long as the metadata is being saved to the sidecar file C1 should be able to read it. I don't think the back ups would cause a problem just as long as it doesn't break the link with the watch folder for LR and the metadata transfers between LR and C1. 0 -
Last thing, if you make a crop in LR will it show up in C1? Is that possible? 0 -
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Last thing, if you make a crop in LR will it show up in C1? Is that possible?
Not unless you send it back as a Tiff file or some other C1 readable format. In which case you will already have performed a RAW conversion - the task that is considered to be a big benefit for using C1.
I suppose you might be able to set up a workflow that would use a cropped output from an external source as an Overlay in C1 that could then be used to match the crop. However it's not something I have ever looked at and may not be practical.
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Yes, of course, I want to use C1 to process out and looks like you can make star ratings in bridge or LR, but there is still the issue of applying a crop. So, are you saying that you can create a overlay in the shape and dimensions of the crop and apply the overlay to images in C1, but that overlay won't show up in LR or Bridge will it? Or vice versa? Confused, lol. Isn't there anyway to make the crop part of the metadata template that you export to XML? Seems like meta data should include crop dimensions. I know that if you were to look at the XML file of a processed raw, it will include the dimensions of whatever crop you applied to the raw file. ?? Thanks. 0 -
I have never end tried to crop in LR and then see if it is transferred to C1, just isn't part of my workflow. Unfortunately I can't test that right now because I am away from my workstation. My suggestion would be to do a quick test. Take a unprocessed image in LR, put it into its own folder by itself(just to make the test quicker and easier), apply a star rating, color, crop and then save out the xmp data. Open a C1 session and navigate to that image and force C1 to read the metadata and see what carries over. 0 -
a crop in LR will only transfer to CO if you import the catalog. 0 -
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So, are you saying that you can create a overlay in the shape and dimensions of the crop and apply the overlay to images in C1, but that overlay won't show up in LR or Bridge will it? Or vice versa? Confused, lol.
Not really what I was thinking.
Rather I was considering that for the "Crop" part of your question (and only that part) you would use the 'other' program, whatever it might be, to generate a version of the file cropped to the size required. That file, with opacity reduced, might then be usable as an Overlay in C1 (a facility normally used to ensure that an image fits a page layout, for example a magazine cover). Put the cropped file overlay on top of the Image you are processing in C1 and then make the same crop as part of your C1 edit. Nothing more complicated than that.
HTH.
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