Capture One 7 and Media Pro - beginner!
I am updating from Express to Capture One 7 on my Mac as I love the software but I am also trying to decide if I should get Media Pro 1 to go along with it - is it worth having both? Why as capture One 7 seems to do a reasonable job of archiving but from what I read of Media Pro it seems better - is that so?
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It would be great if the two worked seamlessly together...they don't.
I've used media pro for over 10 years as I just shot jpg. So I do all of the editing/filing/sorting captioning and keywording with media pro. That's what it does and it's very good and quick at.
Sadly the colour tags aren't the same, and capture 1 won't recognise anything rated past 7 (sods law I'v rated my keepers as 8 and folios as 9 for the past 10 years!)
Also rating images is different press 1 in MP and it colour tags it as red C1pro rates it as a 1 star grumble, grumble, grumble.
After using MP for so long I haven't grasped the way C1pro organises files, so do is all my editing and sorting in MP, then import the RAW images into C1pro and work on them there.
I find it worth having both because there is so much I can do in MP, I can't in C1, and vice versa. but I'm still playing catchup on C1 but I couldn't work without MP.0 -
Many thanks - that is very helpful - lot to think about 0 -
Cooperation between CO7 and MP1 is not as obvious as one would want it to be, but it is not rocket science either.
I suggest that you get familiar with CO Pro 7 first. In particular the option to use session over catalogs. From CO Express 7 you are familiar with the CO catalog. A session is another way of organizing files and only available in CO Pro 7, not Express.
In Pro you can create as many sessions as you like, and the same is true for catalogs. You even can have both (it is not a one time decision) but I do not encourage you to do that (confusing). Think of it as multiple documents in your word processor.
The bottom line is you find out what kind of workflow fits best for you:
- CO Pro 7 with session
- CO Pro 7 with catalog
- CO Pro 7 with session + MP1 catalog
Note that I excluded a workflow with catalogs in both CO and MP. If you like to use them together, use session in CO7.
Note: Media Pro has a 60-day trial as CO7.
Note: to have behave CO & MP nicely, a few preference settings need to be set at both sides; there are tutorials on that but don't be afraid to ask when you are up to it.
Note: you might find advice in the MP forum as well0 -
Hi Paul, Could you explain why not work with catalogues +MP (leaving files where they are) and work with sessions +MP instead?
I found this: which was little help in explaining sessions, so I didn't investigate them further than watching the Youtube vid about them - Still no wiser 😊
What I'm currently doing is sorting everything in Media Pro, first split RAW and jpg into two folders, then edit/keyword/rate the jpgs and only the jpgs leaving them all intact, I shoot jpg and RAW - I have a system with editing jpgs it's quick and it works.
After I've finished the edit I sync out twice, one embedding the metadata to the jpg files, then again creating XMP files. I then copy the XMP sidecar files to the RAW folder, and fire up C1pro.
C1p imports only the RAW files and all the metadata from the XMP sidecar, and I can then delete unwanted RAW images...then go back to MP and remove all the unwanted jpgs.
Sounds a faff and to be honest it is, I want a bit of software/script to copy metadata from a jpg with one name to a RAW of the same name.0 -
I only recently started to explore the interaction between Capture One and Media Pro, so I do not pretend to have a good overview (yet 😄 ).
Some notes
You have basically two kind of workflows
- you start in CO7 and add images to MP: both session and catalog can be used
- you start in MP and move images for adjusting (and processing) to CO7: you need a session
Your workflow, whether you like to sync metadata, whether you like to have MP show your CO adjustments, and potentially other parameters: these are some features I have not fully ironed out yet. Work in progress.0 -
OK...I'm option 2, I prefer to edit/keyword/manages image locations in MP, then work on the RAWs in C1pro
With that in mind, put simply, what's the difference between a session and a catalogue?
Also what does a session offer that a catalogue doesn't and vice versa?
Current situation with one job:
Shot, up loaded to MP, tag (to bin) anything that doesn't work (mis fires, bad crops etc), checked everything was sharp using jpg - tag those that aren't. Do edit. Sync out twice (as ^^). Import RAW files into C1 catalogue, delete tagged RAW files, (I know all the images are sharp) adjust and export proofs to client.
Client want to see more of one type of image so I just use C1pro catalogue to select (I know all images are sharp now) then process the requested shots and export proofs.
After I've finished I opened MP and import annotations on the RAW files, and before yesterday I would them have to manually tag the jpgs images to keep everything in sync...but Daniel2 had a script, so now I run that and every tagged images is back in sync again.
(I'm not fussed about seeing the processed RAW files in MP, if they have a tag they have been processed to one extent or another.)0 -
Snooks,
When you would use a session in CO7, you can send images directly from MP to CO, without the need to import them separately. When you work with Catalog Sets in MP, the image will be opened in MP as an Album. This allows for opening images from different disk folders (which are in one Catalog Set) in CO7 at once.
The differences between session and catalog is another one, for another time (more time I mean). Maybe a search here can help. Or look for a video.
Edit:Video tutorial tip
For session go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FcfE67Ln_4
For catalog go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1uj5ytvklo0
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