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Managed or Reff files

Henrik Lorenzen
As an old Aperture User
i was wondering is there any big benefits with managed files
compered to Reff files

i have a round 40000 image and all in albums so it is a easy move and the Harddrives is not an issue

so let me know what you guys are having the files stored
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  • NN636274225804497206UL
    I would say use referenced for ability to configure catalog for better speed. (I'm assuming you don't a big enough SSD drive to fit all your images and your catalog)

    1) put catalog on SSD drive for speed. I have SSD internally in my Mac for this.

    2) put images (referenced) in a folder structure on another drive. I'm assuming spinning disk here, probably RAID or something using Thunderbolt attach or USB 3.0.... or an internal spinning drive. Get faster drives (7200 rpm) where possible.

    I found putting the catalog on SSD helped speed a lot.
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  • Henrik Lorenzen
    Thanks for that
    i already have it on my 1TB SSD and i can always add more
    so beside HD drive space no other issues then
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  • NN636274225804497206UL
    ... just beware. 1TB sounds like a lot but if you are putting 40k images on that along with the catalog DB itself, you may not have that much room to expand.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Off hand, I can't think of any benefits to using managed. In fact, Referenced has some big advantages, such as being able to point multiple apps (A3, C1, LR) at the same set of folders, which gives you a bit of flexibility if you eventually decide to change processors. Also, it's useful to have an on-disk file structure that can just be accessed—for example by perusing using Quick Look or Affinity Photo.

    I keep my catalog + images on a Seagate Hybrid drive. My theory, which seems to be holding, is that the catalog (being the most-accessed "file") will be migrated to the drive's cache ("SSD") while the image files will remain on capacious spinning disk. I think using SSD for catalogs makes a lot of sense, but makes no sense at all for image files unless you have lots of money to burn and available connections to your computer for an ever-expanding set of SSDs.

    I also keep 2 backup copies of my entire library on external spinning disks.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Exactly the same for me. Referenced files, catalog on the internal SSD of my MacBook Pro, image files on an external rotating HDD.
    Don't forget that original RAW files are needed only for 1:1 displays of images (e.g. local adjustments), otherwise, Capture One works on the previews, which are stored inside the catalog.
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  • HansB
    Referenced for me, too

    Referenced catalogs on MBP internal SSD (HDD on the old one).
    Small footprint, smaller backups. Enough for showing and basic adjustments.

    Referenced images on external HDD.
    Still portable, very easy to backup. Full control over my folder structure.
    Accessible with other software without 'Open With' from CO.

    New work always in sessions on internal SSD (again, HDD on the old one). I move them to catalog when done.

    Backups of catalogs, sessions and images on external HDDs.


    Regards,
    Hans
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  • Henrik Lorenzen
    Thank you all
    so i can see the hard drive sems Major difference
    i was hoping someone could tell me if the speed would be better for filtering.
    Back when Aperture was rulling my Mac i had them all managed nice and easy and i never had issues with lost connection or so

    Have a nice day
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  • HansB
    [quote="Lorenzen" wrote:
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    i was hoping someone could tell me if the speed would be better for filtering.
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    Filter tool only uses the data of the catalog database. It shouldn't matter if the images are referenced or managed.


    Regards,
    Hans
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