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Canon wireless with C1Pro

jonathanh
Howdy!

I've checked out this website before but just now registered. My question is about Canon cameras and C1Pro. Our studio shoots with Canon 1D Mark IIs and we are experimenting with the new Canon wireless solution. Our issue is that we are shooting into FTP server software and then are setting the folder in that software as our root in C1Pro. The images come up, but they don't 'refresh' as we go, so we have to actually click on the most recent image to see it on the monitor, instead of it popping up as the default.

Is is possible to set up either the folder or the C1Pro software so that the 'youngest' 😄 , most recent image comes up as the main image?

Thanks a bunch!

Jonathan
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  • Anonymous
    Jonathon,

    I believe so, but you will be the Official Tester for the set-up you are using. Please share the results with the rest of us. 😊

    At File > Preferences > Miscellaneous Settings tab
    be sure to checkmark at the bottom option of: Enable Hotfolder

    Sincerely,
    k c
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  • fphoto4
    Jonathan

    It didn't work in 3.7 along with other features. After spending almost $1,000.00 on the wireless, I hoped it would work.

    Hopefully they have many of the bugs corrected in this version.
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  • fphoto4
    Just loaded 3.7.1 and while some of the bugs were fixed, tethered operations does not work the way it used to.

    The last image captured normally auto refreshes on the screen. Now you have to select it.

    You would think they would get it correct after this was posted.
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  • Anonymous
    The Canon 1Ds and 1D have long since been able to tether back to Capture One v2.9.4

    Using a Canon wireless system is new. To expect this Ethernet-based LAN system to an FTP server with encrypted data to work directly with Capture One is quite a stretch.

    In theory, it could work.
    But as I stated, using Canon software operating in the background, with images from FTP set to write to a Capture One Session folder, and Enable Hotfolder checked in Preferences.

    Tethered correctly via FireWire or USB, the images do come up in Capture One for each image. WB can be established and applied to following captures as well. If your Canon EOS DSLR camera is working improperly with all settings correct, then a Support Case should be created.

    Sincerely,
    k c
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  • NN109703UL2
    Not sure why it is not working for you, but I did exactly what you are trying to do and it worked great for me.
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  • fphoto4
    Version 3.7.1 is able to capture and have a little thumbnail created with my 1Ds. However it DOES NOT come up in the center of the screen like version 3.5 does. As a matter of fact when you capture in all previous versions the last image captured shows up on the bottom of the thumbnails.

    This does not happen. The thumbnail shows up but you have to scroll to see it and then click on it for it to be enlarged in the middle of the screen.

    This is all with firewire.

    OK, got it working. Why, I don't know why.

    Called a friend of mine that shoots with the same camera (1Ds) tethered. Said he had the same problem and stopped using the software. A day later he tried it again without changing anything and it worked.

    After his call I opened the software and changed nothing and it worked.
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  • Anonymous
    fphoto4,

    So glad You posted this. We have been scrambling to figure out what setting is missed or what is up with a 1Ds to make it behave like this for you and a Case we're working on. Never doubted you, just tried and tried to duplicate without success.

    Please share with us any insight, thoughts, or theories You or Your Friend may have. You don't by chance have a Beta of the Windows RAW viewer installed do you?

    This may be one of those examples of this TechnoWorld we're in where there is No Valid Explanation of the phenomena.
    😕 ...go figure...


    Cheers,
    kdc
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  • fphoto4
    Keith

    Installed a new computer and installed 3.7.1. The auto refresh works most of the time, but not always in the tethered mode.

    I did have the previous 3.7 loaded, but removed it.

    As far as the Canon wireless, when we point C1 to a folder that the wireless dumps images in, we can only see the thumbnails, images DO NOT refresh in the middle of the screen.

    I called Dan, which had a previous post that said it worked. After talking for a while he said that just the thumbnails came up.

    Hopefully this can be worked out.

    Neal
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  • Danaky
    A little of the subject, but does anyone know if the wireless system will work withe the Canon 1Ds.

    Thanks,
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  • jonathanh
    From my understanding, the wireless equipment will not function with a 1D or 1Ds. It must be a 1D Mark II or 1Ds Mark II (or a 20d with a firmware upgrade). I think that this is because the 1D and 1Ds came out before wireless was really being considered by Canon. Our studio has called to see if there is a firmware upgrade and apparently there isn't. ☹️

    I am encouraged to hear that some of you were able to get the images to refresh as they were taken. I haven't gotten to that point yet, as I am trying to write the manual on this equipment for our studio as I go. Thanks to everyone for all their insight. It's nice to know that there are people out there having some of the same issues I am. 😊
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  • fphoto4
    Is anyone working on this?
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  • Anonymous
    For All Users with Tethering Dilemmas:

    The most basic test in Troubleshooting this issue is to verify if Tethering is successful with the Canon Capture software.
    Yes = Capture One may be to blame OR No = Capture One is not to blame


    If you have not, Please Read the v3.7.1 Release Notes:
    Auto connect camera
    After you launch Capture One, the application will try and auto connect your camera to see if it is connected to the computer. When you switch on your camera and the LCD screen is lit, the camera is in a special mode which prevents the operating system from connecting to the camera. You must quickly cancel this mode by either:

    1. Quickly press the shutter half way down and release it again
    2. Turn off the LCD screen

    If Capture One does not auto connect your camera after this, reconnect manually via the “File | Reconnect camera†menu item.

    Phase One recommends that you first switch on your camera and make sure the LCD screen is turned off before you launch Capture One.

    Prevent capturing images if not properly connected
    Most cameras can be setup so that you cannot release the shutter if you are not connected to Capture One or if a Media Reader is not present in your camera. This will prevent you from shooting images without being properly connected to Capture One and thus will prevent you from losing any images.

    For the Canon 1Ds Mark II you can enable this function via:
    • Custom Functions | Function No 2 | Shutter release without card : select \"Not Possibleâ€

    Consult your Camera operating manual for specific details on how to enable this setting.

    For successful tethering, All variables must be on the Same Page., i. e. The most recent version of Capture One 3.7.1; and the most recent camera Firmware upgrades, camera Drivers installed, and correct camera settings established.

    Please Note: Windows XP has WIA Drivers, while Windows 2000 has TWAIN Drivers.

    Sincerely,
    kdc
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  • fphoto4
    Keith

    SO with the wireless dropping images into a folder which C1 is looking at. Is the program capable of generating a large image on screen from the thumbnails we see being populated in the program?
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  • Anonymous
    fphoto4,

    You stated:

    OK, got it working. Why, I don't know why.

    Called a friend of mine that shoots with the same camera (1Ds) tethered. Said he had the same problem and stopped using the software. A day later he tried it again without changing anything and it worked.

    After his call I opened the software and changed nothing and it worked.



    Is this the 1% of the time working successfully now?
    What processor is in your machine?, your friend's machine?

    Still waiting to hear from Developers about the Wireless situation. Yes, it seems if image files are populating within a Session folder they should be seen to create a Preview. Are these files unencrypted by the Canon wireless set-up before they arrive into this folder?

    Sincerely,
    kdc
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  • fphoto4
    Keith

    We have the wireless unit transfering images into the computer. New computer built just to test your software. But you can only view thumbnails, nothing populates the center of the screen. As far as my friends computer goes, I don't know what processor it has but can find out. Mine has the new Athalon 64 chip on an Asus A8V motherboard running Windows 2000 pro.

    We previously loaded 3.7 into this computer and did an uninstall. Would this remove all portions of the software?

    I think the 1% comment was in the tethered mode, not wireless.

    Another friend who shoots nikon has images captured into Nikon software and then into your program. He said he can only see the thumbnails.
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  • alleng
    I have been having the same problem as fphoto.

    When I am shooting wireless to a ftp folder and have C1 pointed to this folder the images show up on the thumbnail screen and previews are generated, but the most recent image does not apear in the centerscreen full size preview window. I must click on one of the thumbs for that image to show up in the center, but then when I shoot another image I must again click on the new thumb for it to show up in the center. My understanding is that this is what the hotfolder setting was for. I have tired this in 3.5 to 3.7.1 all with the same results.

    This problem can be simulated by opening a folder in C1 and opening the same folder in windows explorer, then copying one raw file at a time into the folder using windows explorer (not C1). C1 will then see the file and show a thumb and generate a preview, but it will never show the latest file in the center of the screen unless you click on it.


    Are these files unencrypted by the Canon wireless set-up before they arrive into this folder?

    No these files are not encrypted, All the wireless does is drop the files into that folder. just as if you use explorer to do the same.

    I have seen the same problem on the 1D M2 and the 1Ds M2. I have also encounted it in 2 other studios while helping other photographers setup there wifi camera system.

    I would love to see some resolution on this, because this is truely the future of photography. If this problem is fixed it would be a dream to shoot Wirelessly Teathered (as I like to call it) to C1. Once you have seen it in operation you will never go back.
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  • fphoto4
    alleng

    After talking with you. I was thinking its a shame that Phase One can't get the software to work correctly. But you are able to do so with another program.

    Maybe they should hire you?

    Other bugs are in the software that did work before.
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